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Yes, when it returns it would fall under Mikaus ability, being as it is no longer human. What you'd do is sac the cathar to transform archdemon or keep him from damaging the crap out of you and then you get back the zombie as a 3/2 undying thanks to mikaeus.
I have a similar version with an emphasis on tokens: Rum Sodomy and the Lash V1 (BRW Tokens)
More human version: Rum Sodomy and the Lash V2 (BRW Humans)
Would love input!
I like Falkenrath Aristocrat as this deck was originally more of a red black vampire deck with a splash of white but i moved away from it as I focused on the human component.
Titan and Hunter have a lot of synergy imo. Archdemon of Greed is also very dangerous to use. You have to be careful when transforming him. Sun Titan is a more effective threat than Thraben Doomsayer (whose tokens really aren't that good unless you're running a token deck or Adaptive Automaton).
I think you're too focused on the humans, there really aren't any cards that beef them up and they're fodder anyway.
@Strangelove I'm a Johnny not a Timmy so for me, it's all about the Humans! That said I am going to try it with Sun Titan as i want to see my friends face when I infinite combo. Thanks for the advice.
@squirrelking98 Thanks man, that made my day. :)
i have a similar deck. in my experience using sacrificial humans, the archdemon is not dangerous to you at all. If your playing this deck right you should have a huge field of humans out there just waiting to be sacrificed. Especially since your running 4 doomsayers, he is just great and i love the doomsayer/flayer combo.
Wow...me and you have almost the exact same deck haha. I like your build though, have you thought about Altar's Reap? It triggers morbid for the priest and Tragic Slip,in case you dont have a sac engine up. A deck like this can go into top deck mode very quick and Altar's Reap can give you some much needed card advantage. Good deck though +1
Don't flip the demon if your humans are weak. He's not a bad guy unflipped. Every game so far where I've played him I've had a human with many counters bigger than him ready to be sac'd. Anyways he's more end game and I like the flavor and the additional sac outlet. What do you think?
I can't believe no-one mentioned this yet:
Doomed Traveler is a boss and an auto-include in any b/w semi tokens deck, not to mention that it's a heavenly sacrifice target.
swap for 2 thraben doomsayers and 2 village cannibals IMO.
Aside from that it looks alright, although i'd probably run 1 less altar's reap and sub in another sorin if you have it
Falkenrath Noble would be a pretty awesome card in your mainboard here, because of all the sacrificing you'll be doing. As for your sideboard...
a couple of thoughts,
i playtested this deck 100 times and i got mana screwed more times then a deck should. I dont know why this is seeing that you have 24 lands but thats the facts
my other though,
@permhole96 you playtested this deck 100 times? That's more than I have.
I can't say I've been mana screwed with this deck much. 24 lands have been my golden number forever with few minor adjustments.
I think i will playtest some of your suggested creatures as it will be fun to mix it up. I didn't like Skirsdag Flayer or Doomed Traveler as they seemed kind of week. Also 4xGather the Townsfolk is replaced by 2x Lingering Souls
Thanks for your feedback. Please keep it coming.
I've built a similar deck called Kill all the humans... even your own.
I think this is a very cool deck, but i sort of wondered whether it might not be better without could be taken of for some more Increasing Devotion. It just feels dangerous and also dies to removal. I like your deck though so +1 for the idea.
I made a deck similar to this one. Here is link http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-power/ I am still making changes as I play with it and its only based off of cards I currently own.
I found that Sun Titan can be very useful in bringing back all of the lower cost cards in this deck. You may want to consider adding this card.
@nvergara45 I thought the same thing. But then I realized that they both have their advantages. Village Cannibals has potential to get counters when opponent's humans die. With Unruly Mob of course its only your creatures but they don't have to be human. With this deck being mostly human creatures that you would want to sacrifice I can see why Village Cannibals was chosen. I actually have both in my deck
Yeah it was a weird thing but it's better to have the "I get big because of death" guys to be a bit bigger than 1/1 when they come out otherwise they are a bit too weak. Also if they Mind Control one of my other humans and I kill it, Village Cannibals still gets +1/+1. Yeah it happened.
hey, would you be so kind as to help out a friend whos just starting magic and saw ur deck and wanted to build it kind of like your B/U???
he needs the help and i would be very appreciative if you could offer some advice to a player just starting. This goes for anybody who wants to help him get started...
the deck is called deck:sorin-and-tokens
thx, and just ask if u need shit
Nice, so this is primarily a human token deck then. I must say that this looks really solid too, I playtested it a few times and this deck can really handle itself.
How do you find the s in the deck? With so many human tokens running around, i'm suprised you don't have 4 of them (especially with 24 lands and a generally fair/low curve). Why not add two more in exchange for your Disciple of Griselbrand, and sideboard the disciple for either your 2 Go for the Throat or Geth's Verdict? You already have a lot of removal in that sideboard, especially with Day of Judgment.
+1, especially for putting the cannibals in here XD
this is deffinately one of the better thought of bw decks on the site, so u have my approval. lemme point some things out here
Skirsdag High Priest a 2 of! haha i always tell people u only need 2 in a deck but your some1 who figured it out so cheers
Thraben Doomsayer costs 1WW so with less plains than swamps i wonder how much you get him out without much problem...it must be your shuffling coz ide never get away with it lol. ide do something about it though, coz luck tends to run out,
lets think about Sorin, Lord of Innistrad at release he went $60 in some places yet never impacted standard like jtms or even lili (who was around the same price)...and his price went down quite fast too, why? coz he is actully overhyped..im not saying hes bad..he is actually good. but not good enough to simply be in every bw deck especially since ur not doing the common token swarm attack plan with a shizloada anthems. the emblems arent that important..just saying..
but a pw is your personal thing i guess it all depends on taste
my take on your deck for my personal playtesting (against my bw decks X_X Morbid the humans crusaders are in coz there such a beast in standard, the Suture Priest is ther coz it hurts with the tokens i have and hero...gl mate and remember, your doing extremely well
I wonder what avacyn's return will hold for this deck... Also, does anyone have any advice on replacements for Royal Assassin? I was thinking Wakedancer, for it's morbid bonus. Any ideas? I'm trying to make it only from the Innistrad block to make sure it doesn't lose anything big and can have the best longevity in standard play.
They'll disrupt their early game more and will be better for you to set up nicely. And once you don't need it or have another one in hand, you can just sacrifice the one in play (and still benefit from it as its a human) and play the other.
The Royal Assassin always get's the shaft but people forget how powerful he really is. Just as a deterrent to your opponent attacking you because he knows that his best attacker will die before it get a chance is enough to make most of the people I play this deck against pause. And one pause is enough for me to human/sac engine my way to victory. Yes don't underestimate the Royal Assassin. He's better then you might think.
Swamp ive gotta tell you man you've got a very well thought out deck, one extremely similar to one ive been homebrewing for a while. At my local fnm theres alot of competitive guys that ive showed a version of this off to and a few takes ive made of it myself.
Anyway have you Considered Gideon Jura? back when you were still running the increasing devotions mainboard i swapped them out for 2 Gideon Juras i had taken out the disciple of Grisslebrand and the royal assassins at the time and replaced them with a playset of lingering souls for testing purposes(at this time i rebalanced the land to make it a little more smooth).later i removed 2 of them and put in 2 more Altar's Reaps because having that draw advantage was just so amazing.
anyway on to what i had thoughts wise to the Gideons 1. often times my opponent doesn't want to swing when you need to remove something important on his board when he knows you have vault of the archangel up, when you use gideon's 2nd ability this sets up a perfect way to blow through alot of his guys with some of your tokens and other things possibly making your village cannible ginormous depending on how many humans die in that process.2. if by some chance you still need more things dead and Gideon Jura lives his -2 does the exact same thing as Royal Assassin in a sense. Although Gideon doesnt deter an attack as well as he does.
Also something else i had experimented with was Massacre Wurm (swapped one out with a ravenous demon, running one of each was definitely interesting) however doing that i fealt like the sacrifice part of the deck was lacking a bit as id end up flooding the field with human tokens occasionally. for this purpose if you like Massacre Wurm it may be worth putting into the sideboard if you play a guy who is flooding the field with anoying 2 toughness peoples.
Just wandering on your thoughts as far as those changes go.here's my version of it: