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, : Exile the top card of your library. Until end of turn, you may play that card. Put a brick counter on Oracle's Vault.
: Exile the top card of your library. Until end of turn, you may play that card without paying its mana cost. Activate this ability only if there are three or more brick counters on Oracle's Vault.
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Oracle's Vault Discussion
1 month ago
How has Chaos Wand been performing for you thus far? I haven't yet tested it because of my skepticism. Seven mana seems like a big investment for a random spell assuming you use the wand the turn you cast it. I imagine hitting counterspells would feel pretty bad too.
However... just realized the interaction with Paradox Engine and rocks that tap for four mana. I suppose it would function almost like a more consistent Oracle's Vault at that point until you drain each opponent of their instants and sorceries. Essentially, this would be a two card combo because of how many rocks are run.
1 month ago
Jcerto: I've just released my review of C18 cards above.
Jay3401: I haven't given much thought to using Thran Temporal Gateway. It could be good, but it could also end up being discard fodder. I can test it just to see how it will do. I feel like it is almost like Oracle's Vault with three brick counters on it. However, it doesn't combo with Paradox Engine. And on the other hand, it also can't get countered like the cards from Vault can. Things to consider...
Egoxeno: That's really an honor for me that you think this is the definitive starting point for Daretti players. I really appreciate that. While you are correct that this could be really great with infinite mana, I also have to take into consideration the ability to recur these cards. Much like Hangarback Walker, we cannot bring them back from the graveyard, so they do lose a little bit effectiveness. It is something I could still consider, given the time for me to test it out, but in all honesty, it's not the highest on my list.
1 month ago
If the ingester is a bit too high cmc for you maybe Hostage Taker would be nice since you can also steal opponents creatures with it or blink it to blink one of your own creatures the turn it comes in. Also have you thought about something like Inexorable Tide it makes it so you never have to use the commanders positive ability since the proliferate on spells should keep your loyalty high. If you don't want to add that maybe look into Oracle's Vault to get some synergy off the times you have to use your commanders plus ability it lets you do stuff like put your land or low drops on top of the library to charge it up to 3 bricks
2 months ago
I also used a combo of Patchwork Gnomes and Haunted Crossroads. This doesn't require you to play the creatures beforehand, and the enchantment I use has a lower CMC than altar. Haunted Crossroads is just good in general for recurring creatures in general though. Oracle's Vault is definitely a sweet pick for this strategy.
2 months ago
Hi Unas! I like the deck list you have here. I think they theme of manipulating the top card of your deck is a good idea that you should stick with. However, I do think that if you have too many creatures that have the same effect on the board, it makes them useless when you only really just need one. Not to mention the redundancy that even your Commander has essentially the same effect. If I were to make some small changes, I would take out any of the underwhelming and redundant cards like Veteran Explorer and Oracle's Vault for cards like Rashmi, Eternities Crafter, Coiling Oracle, and Altered Ego. All of which are multicolored, so when you cast them you will get both of Momir Vig, Simic Visionary's triggers. I also have a Momir Vig, Simic Visionary Commander deck that has the same general theme as yours does. If you'd ever want to take a look at it for some card examples, you're more than welcome to do so anytime!
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2 months ago
WizardGarm: Oracle's Vault is definitely hit and miss. It does take some effort to get set up and up to three brick counters, but when you get it at max, and as long as you have Paradox Engine out, you're almost guaranteed to be going infinite. I'm having a tough time cutting it at the moment. Every time I've played it, it's been good for me.
2 months ago
Thank you for your reply. Your reasoning seems good aye, I might include Slobad, Goblin Tinkerer for testing. Our meta isn't counter heavy, but it is quite wipe/exile heavy, targeted and stuff like Merciless Eviction are auto-include if the colours allow it.
I've tested Scroll Rack and it has helped me in a pinch, it shined when I was behind. I might include it.
Regarding deck tech, I've been having difficulties when to use Oracle's Vault or do you only use/abuse it with untaps/proliferation. Most of the time it feels bad when I draw it, and if I invest mana into making brick counters it usually gets taken care of. But I can see it being very strong using Paradox Engine. Perhaps it is still in the testing phase, or did it prove itself for you?
3 months ago
Deck needs to be updated with current state in paper.