What is the most viable right now, R/G Tron or U/W Tron.
Modern forum
Posted on July 9, 2014, 12:58 a.m. by Jared1998
I'm looking to build a deck for modern and I want something at least semi competitive. I absolutely love the tron lands and I want a deck built around them. I was wondering which one was the best as of right now. If you have an answer please explain.
It really depends on what you prefer doing. If you're focused on setting Tron up early to cast Karn Liberated , Mindslaver or Wurmcoil Engine by turn 3 or 4 then G/R is the route you want to take. If you want to try and disrupt your opponent then U/W is the route you want to take. I'm currently playing around with a 5c Tron idea. The more I play Tron the more I want Walking Atlas in my deck with some Lightning Greaves .
July 9, 2014 1:30 a.m.
G/R Tron is the much better deck, in my opinion. It beats up on fair decks, like Jund and Zoo.
With U/W Tron, I feel like it'd be better just to play U/W/R Control. Cutting Lightning Bolt (and all of red) is kind of a bad deal when all you're getting in return is some fast mana and prison effects. It has fewer good matches than G/R Tron and lacks the disruption of U/W/R Control.
July 9, 2014 1:41 a.m.
AnagonLordofSnakes says... #5
U/w tron is just bad, even if you resolve a Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite or something like that it's just underwhelming, I'd say go with r/g
July 9, 2014 9 a.m.
Ohthenoises says... #6
There's also U tron which, personally, I like better than Gifts tron. U tron centers around stalling and drawing using countermagic and then resolving threats to stabilize.
I Fight For the Users! is my wife's U tron list.
July 9, 2014 9:31 a.m.
Servo_Token says... #7
I second that, Blue tron > Uw tron.
Uw is pretty much just a bad attempt at a ramp into Sphinx's Revelation deck that uses an equally unreliable draw engine in gifts. Granted, gifts can be good when you are able to pull 4 cards that you could use, but how often does that really happen? Mono U is much more stable.
Also note that U tron typically beats GR tron, at least in my experience running the deck.
July 9, 2014 10:13 a.m.
I've found that U tron can be just as lethal as RG Tron. It's also much cheaper to build and if you enou playing counter magic AND playing huge threats, I'd suggest U tron.
July 9, 2014 11:27 a.m.
Ohthenoises says... #9
Also it shoul be note that a T3 Sundering Titan is impossible to recover from.
July 9, 2014 11:30 a.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #10
It is my personal opinion that R/G Tron is the best version of Tron out there, as you have access to a much more consistent Tron setup, as well as the best cards to cast off of it. The other versions try to play a more controlling role, however I feel that cutting mroe controlling cards for a combo or ways to search up lands is not the best use of space, and thus they are worse. Mono U Tron especially takes a lot of time to set up and gets destroyed by aggro and combo decks, which R/G has an OK chance against.
@Ohthenoises It's also impossible.
July 9, 2014 7:35 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #11
thispersonisagenius
T1 Urza's Tower
T2 Urza's Mine
> Talisman of Dominance
T3 Urza's Power Plant
> Sundering Titan
I'm sorry, what were you wrong about? :p
I know because my wife actually had this happen in a PTQ qualifier.
July 9, 2014 8:54 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #12
Also, you'd be surprised about the aggro matchup that U tron has. It's actually pretty solid. Then again a distinction should be made between hyper-aggro like Affinity and aggro like KoR Zoo.
July 9, 2014 8:56 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #13
@Ohthenoises My bad. I forgot about Talisman of Dominance , thought you were discussing R/G Tron. That sounds broken as hell.
July 9, 2014 8:56 p.m.
VampireArmy says... #14
Be a real Ballah. Play U/R "Sneak Attack" Tron~ >.>
July 15, 2014 12:32 a.m.
@VampireArmy I have never heard of it. Where can I look to find a decklist.
July 15, 2014 1:11 a.m.
Jared1998 VampireArmy that deck is called gifts tron. :) it's pretty baller.
July 15, 2014 9:41 a.m.
VampireArmy says... #19
Nah man I'm talking about the trim that uses Through the Breach
July 15, 2014 11:02 a.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #20
@VampireArmy It also uses Gifts Ungiven as a 3-of.
July 15, 2014 11:52 a.m.
VampireArmy that's gifts tron. It uses through the breach in most builds. Also I've seen Fury of the Horde
July 15, 2014 12:14 p.m.
VampireArmy says... #22
I thought Gifts tron was the one Reid Duke was using. That was U/W
July 15, 2014 12:15 p.m.
@DrFunk27 and VampireArmy: Check the link I posted. It uses both Through the Breach and Gifts Ungiven . You want to grab Snapcaster Mage , Through the Breach , and an Eldrazi with Gifts Ungiven at the end of your opponent's turn three, then untap and smack them.
July 15, 2014 4:41 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #24
@sylvannos Don't they just bin the Snapcaster Mage and the Eldrazi? What happens then?
July 15, 2014 7:03 p.m.
@thispersonisagenius: You can reliably get Tron up on turn three, so the fourth card can be Kozilek, Butcher of Truth or Wurmcoil Engine . If they dump an eldrazi, you shuffle your graveyard back in. If they dump Through the Breach , you just cast an Eldrazi/Wurmcoil Engine . If they dump both targets for Through the Breach , you can Snapcaster Mage Gifts Ungiven and search up four targets.
July 16, 2014 12:29 a.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #26
@sylvannos I see. It's not supposed to be like Rites + fatty where you get it no matter what. Shuffling your yard back in and putting Through the Breach to hand (since that's what's probably going to always happen) seems less powerful though.
July 16, 2014 10:21 a.m.
@thispersonisagenius: Yah, definitely less powerful than Unburial Rites . I like to think of U/R Tron as more of a consistent deck than Goryo's Vengeance , rather than an actual Tron deck. It basically cuts Goryo's Vengeance for a Tron package so that it doesn't get blown out by graveyard hate and can actually just hardcast stuff. Granted, there's no Griselbrand , so the Gifts Ungiven s are more clutch.
Osang says... #2
R/G features a "faster" control deck that tries to counteract aggro builds using Pyroclasm and taking lands away with Karn Liberated . R/G centers around Karn.
U/W is mostly a Gifts Ungiven deck with a playset of Celestial Colonnade as it's main win conditions. Follows a singleton-like deck so that Gifts hits most of the time, i.e. have Day of Judgment , Wrath of God , and Supreme Verdict as singletons so that any choice Gifts gives your opponent can get you a wrath.
July 9, 2014 1:19 a.m.