The Ur Dragon's Raging Rainbow Party Friends
Commander / EDH
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MegaMatt13 says... #2
plasmor99, they were here but have both been cut. Dragonlord's Servant was cut for Urza's Incubator which gives a better cost reduction and is an artifact (less vulnerable to removal). Fist of Suns only really gave me a deduction with casting my Commander...that's nice...but I rather run other ramp spells that can be used on anything. Thanks for the suggestions :)
September 8, 2017 7:30 p.m.
Revenantmike says... #4
I think you underestimate Fist of Suns. Getting it out and being able to cast your commander is amazing. He is a huge draw engine and lets u play a card for free. complete gamechanger once he comes out. Also i think Intet, the Dreamer and Scion of the Ur-Dragon deserve a spot. Intet also lets you play cards for three measly mana and scion is another gamechanger. From the last few games ive played these cards have completely changed the game in my favor.
September 9, 2017 12:31 a.m.
Rabid_Wombat says... #5
I run a few Tutors and Fist of Suns is my go to card for the same reasons..anything that can get the Big D out fast is an auto-include in my book.
September 9, 2017 4:44 a.m.
MegaMatt13 says... #6
Revenantmike and Rabid_Wombat: I've thrown in Intet. I was on the fence about him but I think he's worth trying out for the card advantage he generates. You may be right about Fist of Suns. I just don't know which ramp card to cut to make room. I'm hesitant to cut the ramp cards that fix my colours or reduce the cost of my dragons. I'm thinking maybe Mirari's Wake? Fantastic card though...I dunno lol. Fist of Suns is on the maybelist now though.
September 9, 2017 2:41 p.m.
As an absurd but hilarious idea, have you thought about minimising the number of dragons and running Conspiracy
September 11, 2017 3 a.m.
Utvara Hellkite + Silumgar, the Drifting Death
Is love, and leaves me deeply desiring more dragons with the trigger "Whenever a dragon you control attacks"
September 11, 2017 3:06 a.m.
killroy726 says... #10
Have you considered Sarkhan's Triumph? It'll let you tutor for your dragons at instant speed!
Btw, Love the deck im definitely adjusting mine with ideas from your build +1 from me!
September 13, 2017 6:41 p.m.
Revenantmike says... #11
MegaMatt13 I would say mirari is pretty weak in five color. You want as you said before color fixing. Getting double of the same color mana isnt nearly as helpful in five or four colors as it would be in three or less. Especially when your game changer needs all five of those colors. That being said mirari is still a great ramp card. i think fist will surprise you on its usefulness.
September 14, 2017 12:55 p.m.
Attack_of_Mogis says... #12
I would replace the Crucible of the Spirit Dragon with Unclaimed Territory once Ixalan comes out. Also, have you considered Dragon Arch?
September 16, 2017 9:55 a.m.
MegaMatt13 says... #13
Attack_of_Mogis, definitely adding unclaimed territory when it comes out. I've thought about dragon arch but I would use Elvish Piper before it. I had Elvish piper for a little bit. However I found with all the cost reducing and ramp the deck didn't really need her. I may reconsider her though. Thanks for the suggestions :)
September 16, 2017 11:53 a.m.
I'd say, check out my scion deck, then we can talk in a chat.
September 17, 2017 2:59 p.m.
Revenantmike says... #15
Take a look at Descendants' Path and the new card from ixalan Unclaimed Territory.
September 30, 2017 5:23 p.m.
Rabid_Wombat says... #16
New mana base looks sweet...sure the shocks are expensive but you will be impressed by how much faster the Dragons hit the battlefield. Maybe consider Prismatic Geoscope due to the extra land types you are now running thanks to the shocks?
Running all ten fetches in my tribal Dragon deck means I don't have any spare for my other edh decks- trying to stuck to a budget yo!
October 1, 2017 12:26 a.m.
MegaMatt13 says... #17
Revenantmike, Unclaimed Territory was already in there :) Don't own Descendants' Path but I'll think about picking one up.
Rabid_Wombat, yeah the enemy fetches in particular are very expensive. I may stick with just the allied ones. My only problem with Prismatic Geoscope is that it enters the battlefield tapped. When I run a mana rock over land ramping it's because I want the benefit of being able to use it right away. The geoscope has the potential to generate a ton of mana though.
October 1, 2017 7:18 p.m.
Attack_of_Mogis says... #18
New mana base looks pretty awesome. I have some recommendations though. The enemy fetches are expensive, but the Mirage slow fetches aren't. (Bad River, Rocky Tar Pit, Mountain Valley, Flood Plain, and Grasslands). I know that Prof over at Tolarian Community College recommends 10 fetches, so you could try those.
I still don't like Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, but that's because I was losing badly, and I had a chance to hang on if I drew any land that could produce colored mana the turn that it came down. Crucible is a pain to use. I would replace it with something else. Personally, I feel lands like those belong more in an Atraxa deck.
Also, have you thought of Sarkhan Unbroken yet? Even if you can't ultimate him, you still get mana fixing, card draw, and Dragon tokens.
October 2, 2017 9:20 p.m.
MegaMatt13 says... #19
Attack_of_Mogis, Sarkhan is definitely on my list of cards to pick up. Its price spiked after this deck was released. I have a hunch it may drift back down again after the hype wears off. I know that sounds weird considering I just spent a lot on lands but I just think it may come down in price (the lands on the other hand were just going to gradually keep rising)
You're probably right about Crucible. It's been ok but not great. I may swap it for Polluted Delta when I pick one up.
I thought about the Mirage fetches but decided they kinda defeat the purpose of why I invested in fetches: to speed up the deck. I'm trying to reduce the number of tapped lands in the deck.
Really appreciate all the suggestions!
October 2, 2017 11 p.m.
Rabid_Wombat says... #20
Mirage fetches are too slow...that's the reason they go for a buck each.
Sarkhan Unbroken will come down in price...however that ultimate takes way too long to trigger, sure it's awesome but he is like a giant bullseye for everyone round the table as they freak out over 20+ Dragons hitting the battlefield so they either attack him or you until he's gone. I'm running Sarkhan the Mad instead, he's cheaper and if you have two or three dragons he can Ultimate the turn he comes into play which takes out the player who is the biggest threat...he is totally mad bro!
October 3, 2017 1:38 a.m.
Attack_of_Mogis says... #21
You don't even need the ultimate on Sarkhan Unbroken, though. The +1 is card advantage and fixing, and the -2 makes more Dragons. He's relatively good even without the ultimate. Sarkhan the Mad seems good, but you can't get too much out of him.
October 3, 2017 3:53 p.m.
Rabid_Wombat says... #22
Attack_of_Mogis we both know you don't need the ultimate...but everyone else will see us as Archenemy while Sarkhan Unbroken is on the board. If you can get away with saying: "Hey guys, I'm just running Sarkhan Unbroken for mana fixing and card draw....nothing to do with that crazy ultimate!" you are playing a lot more casually than we are....Sarkhan the Mad has won me games on the turn he drops - ending a Mexican stand-off with 50+ damage against another Tribal Dragon player made that guy order Sarkhan el Loco for his The Ur-Dragon deck ;)
October 4, 2017 6:04 a.m.
Rabid_Wombat says... #23
Back to the deck I notice that Lurking Predators is glaringly absent...so good in multiplayer- have you considered it MegaMatt13?
October 4, 2017 7:17 p.m.
MegaMatt13 says... #24
Attack_of_Mogis and Rabid_Wombat:
I appreciate the discussion surrounding the two Sarkhans. Sounds like 2 different philosophies when evaluating the cards. I usually don't evaluate planeswalkers based on their ultimate abilities (unless they can be used the turn they drop or perhaps one turn later). Planeswalkers are inherently fragile in Commander because opponents can always agree to send creatures at it. Both Sarkhans generate good value at different times.
In terms of Lurking Predators, I really like the card. I had it in my Xenagos deck. My only concern here is that I'm not sure I have enough density in creatures to make it worth it. It costs 6 mana (the same cost in this deck as a 7 mana dragon effectively). I'd be worried about spending 6 and then not hitting anything. Still, I've put it on the maybelist as it is a card a I enjoy :)
October 5, 2017 11:20 a.m.
Revenantmike says... #25
Ill give you my reasoning for Lurking Predators. Yes it costs about the same as a dragon. However most dragons should cost less because of the amount of cost reducers in the deck. Now you cast lp in place of a dragon but for rest of the game you get to play dragons for free if they r top deck. If they get rid of it then good. They wasted a card that couldve been used on your dragons or commander. Plus you should have other cheat in cards. However i do think its less useful in your deck because you are running less dragons than most tribal decks would.
plasmor99 says... #1
no Fist of Suns? No Dragonlord's Servant?
September 8, 2017 6:05 p.m.