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Torment of Venom
Instant
Put three -1/-1 counters on target creature. Its controller loses 3 life unless he or she sacrifices another nonland permanent or discards a card.
darkmatter32x on State based action with +1 …
4 years ago
I have a Geralf's Messenger with a +1/+1 counter on it.
My opponent puts three -1/-1 counters on it on one go, Torment of Venom for arguements sake.
I was told undying won't trigger again. Why?
I get the impression that those counters in question cancells each other out.
fatalzintomyum on Hapatra
5 years ago
I like the addition of Torment of Venom for it's synergy, and of course Necroskitter is vital, as is splendid agony. I think perhaps Symbiotic Deployment is unnecessary for the number of creatures
sultanofsorrow on Weakening Legion (Pauper EDH)
6 years ago
also was thinking Cannibalize, Torment of Venom, Cartouche of Ambition, Festering Mummy, Blur of Blades, Path of Ancestry
RazortoothMtg on
6 years ago
Remorseless Punishment and Torment of Hailfire are both big "punisher" effects - making your opponents choose. Also Torment of Scarabs and Torment of Venom, although they're both pretty lackluster.
Any particular reason to make this Legacy instead of Modern? Idk a whole lot about Legacy but I feel more janky, slow decks like this one will get crushed. Switching to Modern loses Dark Ritual, Chain Lightning, and part of your manabase, but the mana should be pretty consistent since your 2 colors and have plenty of duals. Also, Dark Ritual could be swapped for the less powerful rituals such as Simian Spirit Guide or Pyretic Ritual without lowering the power level dramatically and bringing it to a format where it will likely be able to win more games.
Legendary_penguin_of_death on Black Sac Engine
6 years ago
Vona's Hunger, Doomfall, Trial of Ambition, Torment of Scarabs, Torment of Venom, and The Eldest Reborn is all I can think of off the top of my head.
Cosmo_Can on Hapatra's blighted boardwipes
6 years ago
Cartouche of Ambition Deity of Scars Exemplar of Strength Festering Goblin Glistening Oil Skinrender Tenacious Hunter Torment of Venom Virulent Wound Witherscale Wurm
JoeBob21 on Hapatra negative counters
6 years ago
I run a Hapatra deck too but i dont have many suggestions because most of the cards i would name are already here. Suggestions: I know that Lethal Sting is a sorcery but its like a Murder that gives you a deathtouch snake so... I really like Torment of Venom in my deck because of the leech plus the snake plus the chance of killing a creature. Decimator Beetle is very good with cards like Exemplar of Strength. Soulstinger isn't bad because they wont really try hard to block/kill it.
Neotrup on Marionette Master and Unlicensed Disintegration …
6 years ago
An exception would be if you used something like Torment of Venom to kill it by lowering toughness, as it would cause the power to be 0 or less when it dies, so the triggers will still happen but last known information will cause you not to lose life.