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Nelly Borca, Impulsive Accuser
Legendary Creature — Human Detective
Vigilance
Whenever Nelly Borca, Impulsive Accuser attacks, suspect target creature. Then goad all suspected creatures. (A suspected creature has menace and can't block. Until your next turn, goaded creatures attack each combat if able and attack a player other than you if able.)
Whenever one or more creatures an opponent controls deal combat damage to one or more of your opponents, you and the controller of those creatures each draw a card.
PhantomHuscarl on
All I want for Christmas is Eldrazi
1 month ago
Man this looks diabolical, love it.
Ever though about adding other Goad effects as they are pretty strong with what you're gifting here?
Things like Disrupt Decorum, Nelly Borca, Impulsive Accuser
, Coronation of Chaos,
Death Kiss, Day of the Moon, Bloodthirsty Blade, Geode Rager, Havoc Eater, Hot Pursuit, Laser Screwdriver, Immortal Obligation, Popular Entertainer, Shiny Impetus, Spectacular Showdown, Taunt from the Rampart and Vengeful Ancestor.
Expecially Disrupt Decorum, Spectacular Showdown and Taunt from the Rampart almost feels like wincon in there while i feel that Immortal Obligation really fits the theme of "good gifts" and Laser Screwdriver is a good mana dump when you've got nothing else in hand.
TijuanaBachelorParty on
Lightning, Pillowfort Commando
1 month ago
Crow_Umbra Thank you, I am enjoying curating this list and appreciate the input and card suggestions.
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The higher land count is intentional, though the number is muddied even more considering Glacial Chasm and Maze of Ith as well as the couple modal dual faced cards in the deck. I tend to avoid mana rocks and instead lean on high land counts to never missing a land drop while having flexible color fixing to play proactive cards for the game plan. I would appreciate 2 more slots in the deck, however I have not found a proactive mana ramp spell I would want to play other than Talon Gates of Madara. Any suggestions?
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I'm glad you mention the mana curve, it has been a point of debate for myself. Some of the heavy hitters have not seen play while lower mana value cards have had the chance to shine. As much as I love Archon of Cruelty
... Patron of the Kitsune is likley going to stay. Oddly I have found myself avoiding casting Tempt with Vengeance and Eiganjo Uprising; which might be related to ramp in this deck. The 3 mana slot is something I am currently looking to trim as well while keeping some of the charm of something like Hissing Miasma. -
Seifer, Balamb Rival and Nelly Borca, Impulsive Accuser
are great suggestions and I particularly like Squall, Gunblade Duelist. I can see fun build around Squall and he will likely find a place for him in this deck with a couple cuts.
I appreciate the feedback as this is my first goad deck. I had not seen Isshin built in this way before and have had fun the couple of games I have had with it.
Crow_Umbra on
Lightning, Pillowfort Commando
1 month ago
Nice deck, I feel like Isshin Forced combat is one of his more under-utilized build routes compared to some of the more popular stuff like Go Wide. I have a few suggestions for your theme that could work with his attack triggers. These are more recs for general consideration than 1:1 slot swaps:
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41 lands might be a bit high for a non Landfall/Lands Matter deck. Might be worth swapping 2ish lands for a couple more 2cmc mana rocks for more early game ramp opportunities?
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In my experience, Isshin thrives with having a lower average curve, which helps with quicker starts and easier rebuilds after eating board wipes and removal. I think you could swap some of your curve toppers with a few more Goad enablers.
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Some Goad enablers worth considering as potential swaps: Nelly Borca, Impulsive Accuser
, Seifer, Balamb Rival, and Vengeful Ancestor in your Maybe Board, to name a few. These could bolster your Karazikar and Breena. -
Squall, Gunblade Duelist could also be a fun political damage incentive.
Goad is a pretty fun strategy with a decent amount of support. I've been tinkering on a Mardu Goad deck with Squall, Gunblade Duelist as the commander, which has some parallels to this deck. After playing Isshin and Nelly Borca for the past few years, I wanted to have a Mardu commander where I could combine elements of both those decks into one, where Isshin didn't need to be the commander.
Hope these suggestions are helpful. If you're looking for more specific feedback or suggestions for swaps, I'd be happy to chat.
Crow_Umbra on
Posthumous Projects
2 months ago
Thank you Balaam! I brewed this up a few years ago but haven't gotten around to putting it together IRL. I had a personal preference that I'd ideally like to not have simultaneous color combo repeats in my IRL deck rotation. Up until earlier this year Burakos, Party Leader
/Folk Hero
was my deck in my lineup.
Well, I finally broke that rule earlier this year by having Isshin, Two Heavens as One and Terra, Herald of Hope
both in my rotation simultaneously lol, and I'm heavily considering converting my Nelly Borca, Impulsive Accuser
deck into Squall, Gunblade Duelist. I didn't think I'd have two of the same color combo in rotation, let alone three. The cool thing is, each one of those commanders has a different color in the Wedge that is most dominant for them.
All of that is to say, I should probably revisit this deck and add it to my lineup. I haven't done Legends Matter yet, but it's been on my short list.
Crow_Umbra on non-black commander search advice
4 months ago
I feel like I have a similar issue as you Moondrop, but for playing stuff in White/Green/Blue lol. I have a few recommendations from personal experience. The following are commanders that I currently have in my personal rotation, or have had built in paper at some point. All of them are pre-con commanders, so they already have decent starting point built in:
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Gylwain, Casting Director - A new exploration of an Aura based strategy. What initially interested me about him was that his ability focuses more on playing creatures than loading up on Auras or Enchantments, which lent itself to playing a more "Go Wide" version Auras, compared to others which aim more to Voltron up a couple of big threats. I took him apart because I've play lots of Aura/Enchantment stuff and it's grown kinda stale for me, also managing Role tokens on board was a bit annoying at times. He's the least popular suggestion, currently sitting at 745 on EDHRec.
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Nelly Borca, Impulsive Accuser
- Her pre-con is fairly decent out of the box, and most Goad and forced combat cards are fairly cheap. She's usually the commander I'll play first at any given session, mostly since she helps get the interactive juices flowing. I think she scales decently to whatever table she's at, and rewarding your opponents for hitting each other keeps things interesting. Nelly isn't super popular, as she is currently ranked 347 on EDHRec/ -
Osgir, the Reconstructor
- The first Boros commander that really piqued my interest. I don't have him built anymore, but he's one of the few commanders I'd reconsider bringing back. He was fairly popular around the time Strixhaven dropped, but I think some of that popularity has since faded as he's now ranked 401 on EDHRec. Given your affinity for recursion and reanimation, his ability is adjacent to that, and leaves a lot of flexibility for reanimating artifacts with ETBs like Solemn Simulacrum or Ichor Wellspring. -
Satya, Aetherflux Genius - Speaking of ETBs, Satya is a really fun option for getting additional value out of creatures with ETB effects. His pre-con is more geared towards utilizing Energy, which are fairly cheap cards in general if you wanted to go down that route. I think most builds tend to focus on his Energy aspects and the ETB/Clone effects in conjunction with him are a bit more slept on by comparison. He's more popular than my other suggestions, sitting at 109 on EDHRec
Crow_Umbra on
Nightmare Blunt Rotation
9 months ago
No prob! I will preface that most of my experience with Goad primarily comes from the Mardu slice of the options available. In case you want to look at a more comprehensive list of the various Goad options in all colors.
From my own personal experience, I'd recommend the following:
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Bothersome Quasit - Fairly low to the ground & not color intensive for your deck. Also helps open up aggro lanes for additional chaos.
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The Sound of Drums - I'd recommend something like this or Ghoulish Impetus, which can both be replayed, while the other Impetus cards are kinda one & done once the creature they're on dies.
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Disrupt Decorum - A pretty classic & budget option.
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Nelly Borca, Impulsive Accuser
- She can Suspect/Goad creatures repeatedly as long as she sticks around. Her draw ability also incentivizes and rewards your opponents to smack each other, which can play into that chaotic feeling. -
Vengeful Ancestor - Another repeatable Goad option
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Karazikar, the Eye Tyrant
- Opens up aggro lanes and also forcibly rewards/incentivizes your opponents to attack each other.
They're all pretty fun options to try out. If you ever want to build a straight up Goad deck, I highly recommend giving Nelly Borca a try, she's a lot of fun.
Veghelia on
Combat Superiority
10 months ago
Hey Crow_Umbra, sorry for the radio silence. Become a bit more busy with non-MTG stuff, so I got less time for brewing, sadly.
"Support" suspicions are just going to be part of playing this deck, so I've accepted that's going to be something I'm gonna run into. I do mostly play with a relatively consistent group of friends (read: like 5 different groups, some with some overlapping players, but all with similar vibes), and they do look at me with suspicion, but are most of the time greedy enough that they'll take advantage of my almost-symmetrical support cards. If they ever choose to destroy them or otherwise turn them off for the others, that tends to draw the table's ire, so most of the time they don't unless everyone agrees they're becoming an issue, in which case I can hardly blame them. I'm currently still mostly feeling that I'm going to try to leave goad out of it as much as possible, safe for a few choice cards (Taunt from the Rampart hasn't shined yet, but I'm feeling it will at some point).
Alright, now on to the card discussions.
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I'm leaving Xantcha, Sleeper Agent
and Emberwilde Captain in the maybeboard. Your arguments are very valid, but I do feel like the don't vibe enough with the "support" idea. -
I had Nelly Borca, Impulsive Accuser
in my deck before and removed her, because she's an odd play. With my lack of goad or other ways to force attacks, I have very little control over the amount of cards I draw with her, if I draw any. I imagine she'd work great as a commander, since you can reliably have her on the field in the early to mid game, where plenty of people attack each other, but I think she does a lot worse as a late-game topdeck. -
Kambal, Profiteering Mayor feels like a "one step too far" kinda card. If my entire point was to give my opponents tokens, then he'd be amazing, but I feel like he's going to not do anything far too often (although I will admit that I don't quite now how often my playgroups play tokens).
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Master Warcraft has one mayor flaw that I'm pretty sure a good chunk of my playgroup will notice: I can force an attack, but I can't force them to not attack me, and my playgroups are spiteful enough that that is exactly what will happen :P
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Batwing Brume is interesting. It's going on the maybeboard for now, since I'm not sure if the problem it fixes is one I run into all that often, but it does feel like a beautiful blindside.
Currently, Ghostly Prison and Brutal Hordechief are most likely going to be in the next version.
Besides that, I'm reviewing:
- The beaters I have in the deck, since they don't feel strong enough. It's not like I didn't know Skysovereign, Consul Flagship and Tajic, Blade of the Legion weren't the best in slot, but the little hope I had for them has been dashed.
- Different graveyard hate (I'm recently formed the opinion that Bojuka Bog really only works in a lands deck), and Kutzil's Flanker is currently my most considered option.
- Lands and ramp. Thran Dynamo was way better when Endbringer was going to be a part of the deck, and the deck feels too color-heavy to run it otherwise. Similar thoughts about the pain-lands. Also, I've adopted the "Chromatic Lantern is bad" position.













