With Marchesa, the Black Rose work with creature tokens?
Asked by JoJaBi 9 years ago
If I have Marchesa, the Black Rose and a creature token with a +1/+1 counter on it in play, can I sac the token and expect it to return to play at beginning of the next end step?
PrimeEpoch says... #2
No, creature tokens can only exist on the battlefield. If a creature token is removed from the battlefield, it is removed from the game. More specifically, if the token changes zones, it's removed from the game.
June 25, 2014 5:51 p.m.
But do tokens ever "touch the graveyard"? If a token creature dies while Algae Gharial is in play, will Algae get a +1/+1?
June 25, 2014 5:53 p.m.
I figured that it probably wouldn't make sense for tokens to return to the battlefield under any circumstances but I wasn't sure because of the whole '"touch the graveyard" thing.
June 25, 2014 6:09 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #5
@nayaftw: That's misleading.
Tokens can change zones, but only once. When a token leaves the battlefield, it remains in its new zone until state-based actions are checked, then it ceases to exist. This is not the same as RFG, as RFG is synonymous with exile.
June 25, 2014 6:09 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #6
To answer the followup question, you'll get the counter. Tokens can change zones, so relevant abilities will trigger.
June 25, 2014 6:13 p.m.
Okay, so Algae Gharial and things like that would get the counter, but Marchesa, the Black Rose wont bring tokens back. Thanks guys!
June 25, 2014 6:14 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #8
Correct. Note that Marchesa, the Black Rose 's ability will still trigger because it checks that the object that died is a creature, not whether it's a token. Also note that the ability says "return that card." Tokens are not cards, so the ability wouldn't apply to them.
JoJaBi says... #1
*Will
June 25, 2014 5:48 p.m.