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Rules Q&A
Black Vise
Artifact
As this enters, choose an opponent.
At the beginning of the chosen player's upkeep, this deals X damage to that player, where X is the number of cards in their hand minus 4.
Red: Redux
by erook
hyalopterouslemur on Best color for this type …
3 months ago
Cards like Zulaport Cutthroat are a type of burn ideal for Stax, but it really depends on which resource you're denying. I'm really fond of Black Vise plus land destruction.
hyalopterouslemur on Best color for this type …
3 months ago
What you're looking for is a Stax deck. Basically it uses cards to disable conventional paths to victory (I'm fond of Winter Orb and Meekstone in this way.) while using things like Black Vise or Zulaport Cutthroat to slowly chip away at an opponent's life total.
Stax decks come in all colors, since a lot of the pieces are artifacts, but you're usually looking for or for the lockdown effects, for forced sac effects, and possibly for direct damage or to make sure the controllish aspects of the deck don't apply to you.
Hybrow on
Snakes on a Planeswalker - Xyris EDH swarm
4 months ago
Seuchenschutz, thanks for the comment and suggestions
I have been looking to remove Solemn Simulacrum for a while. I have found I dont really need the land drop or 1 card draw in this deck so much. Of the cards you suggested, I really like Balor as a replacement. Having an extra flying blocker is nice. and the 3 card draw is funny. Any draw for my opponents that requires discard is always nice.
As for In the Web of War, I already have two haste enabling enchantments Fervor and Roar of Resistance. They both have a lower CMC, and although the +2/0 is nice, I usually have so many snakes in a 3-4 player game, it kinda doesnt matter.
I like Black Vise as a fun addtion, but not sure what I can take out for it. (thats always the hardest part. I will probably keep that one in my maybe board for a while.
Seuchenschutz on
Snakes on a Planeswalker - Xyris EDH swarm
4 months ago
Black Vise and In the Web of War are fun cards to play in the deck. Also Balor seems to be a perfect fit.
YourNeighborhoodGhost on
Ebony owl nesukar
7 months ago
love it got a deck with Ebony Owl Netsuke and Black Vise myself. was running Overburden maybe it could be good in your deck aswell.
SufferFromEDHD on
Mindskinner Ability Loss
8 months ago
Mind Bomb discard or mill
Black Vise and/or The Rack depending on your meta
Ankh of Mishra value
Crumbling Sanctuary commander #2
halanvaina on Mono Red Control/Mill (Premodern)
11 months ago
Forgot about other stuff and sideboard updates.
I see the problem with the 5 mana stuff, so I added a couple Helm of Awakening to try and reduce the cost a little. Has to be colorless since almost all of my 5 drops are artifacts. Speaking of 5 drops, i added a single Mangara's Tome as a way to kind of tutor with a added risk. More tweaking foreseeable in the future. I know it's jank, no need to tell me.
As for the sideboard I took out Black Vise for Red Elemental Blast. Forgot what I took out, but I put 3 Burnout in there. Added a couple Tangle Wire, leave the creature hate alone and I think it's fine.
Also as for the whole Dwarven Ruins thing, I'm actually debating if I should replace those, or take out two mountains for the Balduvian Trading Posts. Again I'm very much in debate over this.
debuf on Last_Laugh
1 year ago
ok, so the 36 basics is not a placeholder and is meant to have a reliable source of mana
I forgot Oubliette even existed (I think I will add it but I will need to find something that can be replaced, the same thing for Chaos Warp.)
Black Vise did get him down to 29 or 26 before he could even do anything about it.
I will think about Archfiend of Depravity but I do think I will add Chaos Warp
