AIN'T NO PARTY LIKE A XENAGOS PARTY

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Posted on Jan. 15, 2014, 8:19 p.m. by JWiley129

Xenagos, God of Revels- 3RG

All the usual stuff.

At the beginning of combat on your turn, another target creature you control gets +X/+X where X is that creatures power.

6/5

Sorry for no pic I'm posting this on my phone.

JWiley129 says... #2

Oh, the trigger is until end of turn

January 15, 2014 8:20 p.m.

cr14mson says... #3

January 15, 2014 8:20 p.m.

JWiley129 says... #4

Thanks cr14mson!

January 15, 2014 8:22 p.m.

Rasta_Viking29 says... #5

So sweet G/R Monsters is the deck to beat. They pushed it and this Xenagos's set!

January 15, 2014 8:29 p.m.

Rasta_Viking29 says... #6

Wait can you play the pw at the same time?

January 15, 2014 8:31 p.m.

flyguy says... #7

Something to note-

Xenagos costs 5- ALL of the other gods only cost 4. Storyline much?

January 15, 2014 8:31 p.m.

OpenFire says... #8

No, it must be b/r minotaurs with the new http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/magic_single_card.asp?cn=Ragemonger&ref=storehover

January 15, 2014 8:31 p.m.

Jay says... #9

Eh, I'm not impressed. 5 is pretty high on the curve of an aggro deck, and then I'd almost always rather play Stormbreath Dragon . On his own, he's just a dead card. In Midrange he could be useful, but overall I'm not impressed.

The new burn spell, on the other hand, is dope.

January 15, 2014 8:33 p.m.

OpenFire says... #10

Red decks will have better things to do with 4 mana, especially the new phoenix. That card is ridiculous.

January 15, 2014 8:35 p.m.

Jay says... #11

I'm not sure what you're referring too, because neither Xen nor Searing Blood cost 4.

January 15, 2014 8:37 p.m.

OpenFire says... #12

Oh, I thought you meant the four mana deal 5. Nope! Searing blood is pretty cool though.

January 15, 2014 8:40 p.m.

G/R Monsters guys...

January 15, 2014 8:40 p.m.

Jay says... #14

Stormbreath Dragon is better 90% of the time.

January 15, 2014 8:41 p.m.

Spootyone says... #15

I can't help but feel like these new cards we've seen aren't changing the metagame but actually solidifying it apart from maybe a little more hate towards MUD. I hope that feeling changes soon.

January 15, 2014 8:43 p.m.

OpenFire says... #16

Xenagos's Disciple definitely pushes me towards G/R

January 15, 2014 8:44 p.m.

Jay says... #17

I'm hoping White Devo gets a boost, but Black just keeps getting stronger...

January 15, 2014 8:45 p.m.

Standard is lucky you can't bloodrush before Xenagos's trigger.

January 15, 2014 8:49 p.m.

Osang says... #19

I like him a lot, and he feels like he could be effective. I think he'd be a little too powerful if he had 4 CMC anyway. I feel like either he's a "win more" kind of card or a hallelujah topdeck "double strike" for the win.

His ability is no joke, and surely will find a way into the current Gruul Monsters decks until he is finally proven to be viable or not by a pro.

EDH, though. I like the idea of having a large creature like Balefire Dragon and just wiping up the opponent's board to almost as high as Blasphemous Act can.

We'll wait and see, I guess. I want to see Phenax and Karametra now...

January 15, 2014 8:50 p.m.

Jay says... #20

The problem is, topdecking him sucks. Bad. He won't trigger until the following turn, and before that he still is just a sitting duck. And that's all assuming you have board presence! If you don't, he's useless.

I agree that he's cool for EDH, though.

January 15, 2014 8:52 p.m.

Osang says... #21

I meant that topdecking something like Burning-Tree Emissary while he's out on the field.

He's susceptible to RTR block's plethora of removal and enchantments like all the other gods, and I hope the gods in general actually become more viable than they are now once rotation hits.

January 15, 2014 8:55 p.m.

Jay says... #22

Even then it takes a turn for him to do anything. He will never be the "Ace" card. If you're gonna win anyway, he saves you a turn. If not, he sinks 5 mana.

I don't just wanna be a hater, but really he's much worse than the other gods so far IMO.

January 15, 2014 8:57 p.m.

JWiley129 says... #23

What are you talking about? If you cast him pre combat you will get his trigger, if you control another creature.

January 15, 2014 8:58 p.m.

Jay says... #24

Oops, for some reason I was thinking it triggered at the beginning of your upkeep.

Regardless, that's still only partial merit returned. He's still too dependent on other variables to be worth it.

January 15, 2014 9:02 p.m.

Osang says... #25

I honestly agree that he's not as good as he looks like even when I say that I like him a lot. I personally like the planeswalker version of Xenagos, The Reveler because of his lower CMC and usability.

I mean, I'd rather have Xenagos, The Reveler to ramp up into Elspeth, Sun's Champion and then proceeding to ramp up more the next turn in EDH games than having this deactivated god on my field and passing.

January 15, 2014 9:07 p.m.

pookypuppy6 says... #26

Wild Beastmaster likes this; Xenagos here goes off before she attacks, so that's at least +2/+2 to your other dudes.

Feral Animist is also surprisingly bombastic.

January 15, 2014 9:24 p.m.

MindAblaze says... #27

I'm excited to try and find a spot for him in my Mayael deck. Another source of Haste is always good.

January 15, 2014 9:34 p.m.

abenz419 says... #28

I think you guys are forgetting how easy red and green devotion is to get and maintain. So I feel like he'll be a creature more often, from what it sounds like, than you guys think. Plus, lets not forget that the Planeswalker is a 4 drop, that adds ramp and can also pump out free 2/2 satyrs. So, you can make a satyr when you play him to create more ramp from him next turn to play Xenagos the god, or just hard cast the god the next turn and then pump out a satyr token that is now a 4/4 with haste. G/R has tons of other monsters to go along with it, not to mention Domri as well. If he's ends up being clunky to play because of his cost and maybe the 7 devotion (which is actually just 5 more cause he adds 2) is tougher to get than the 5 for the major gods I can't say I'll really be surprised, but I really think there's a good chance he sees a decent amount of play.

January 15, 2014 9:47 p.m.

cschiller says... #29

Susceptible to removal? SUSCEPTIBLE TO REMOVAL???? What? HE'S F**KING INDESTRUCTIBLE! In G/R monsters, a 6/5 indestructible for 5 is pretty darned good, and that ability is gravy. A kickass topdeck. Kickass, at least in RG monsters.

January 15, 2014 9:49 p.m.

JWiley129 says... #30

I agree that he will definitely see play in G/R monsters. Have we all forgotten how much mana Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx can produce? Boardwipes don't help him much, but he'll be fine.

January 15, 2014 9:55 p.m.

blackmarker90 says... #31

If you have your devotion he is indestructible swinging for 12 a turn. That is a rough train to stop for anybody

January 15, 2014 9:56 p.m.

Rayenous says... #32

...Not sure why, but my mind keep going to Wild Beastmaster .

Boost it, then Double it with Xenagos, then attack with it... all your creatures get the bonus.

January 15, 2014 9:57 p.m.

What you draw cast enter combat trigger swing 10... your reaching.

T1 Elvish Mystic

T2 xeagos fanatic, Sylvan Caryatid , Domri Rade . Domri can draw him

T3. Polukranos, World Eater , Stormbreath Dragon , Xenagos, The Reveler or phoenix

T4 Repeat plus bloodrush Ghor-Clan Rampager + Blood

T5 Repeat, Xenagos survives wrath and hastes your next 9/9 or 10/10

Procede to drool

January 15, 2014 9:57 p.m.

Jay says... #34

The thing is, he's seriously awful against control. By the time you cast him, Control will have cleared the board at least once if they're doing their job. If this guy comes out with no creatures, he doesn't do anything. He's a 5-drop Legendary Darksteel Relic .

I do recognize that he makes other topdecks stronger, but topdecking him himself is really subpar if you get down to topdeck prayers. Stormbreath Dragon is a much, much stronger choice. And if you're playing against control, Stormbreath is even better.

Xen is win-more. Stormbreath is change the tide of the game.

January 15, 2014 9:58 p.m.

Rayenous says... #35

oh, hey... looks like I wasn't the only one to think of that.

January 15, 2014 9:58 p.m.

Jay says... #36

blackmarker90 he can't target himself, unfortunately :/

January 15, 2014 9:59 p.m.

blackmarker90 says... #37

Yeah, I missed the "another target creature", would be to op if he could

January 15, 2014 10:05 p.m.

Rayenous says... #38

Anyone else see how well he pairs with both/either of the R/G gods...? Especially Nylea!

Give your creature +2/+2... maybe more than once... then when it attacks it will Double it's Power, have Haste if needed, and Trample.

January 15, 2014 10:08 p.m.

He's a turn 3 or 4 play... before or post wrath.

January 15, 2014 10:11 p.m.

I'm all reveled! Not on SCG yet.

January 15, 2014 10:16 p.m.

robrone9 says... #41

Does he trigger heroic?

January 15, 2014 10:24 p.m.

How is he bad against Control? Control's saving grace against G/R is that only one creature in the deck has haste and can be dealt with. When every top-decked creature suddenly gains haste and double power there are going to be problems.

January 15, 2014 10:24 p.m.

abenz419 says... #43

ok so he himself isn't a great topdeck, so run less than 4 copies and play with domri to help draw for him. after you play the new minor gods, you only need to add 5 more devotion, which if you haven't noticed is actually only 1 more than you would need for the major gods (because of the one the god provides themselves) Plus just like a Kalonian Tusker adds 2 green devotion, something like the new Fanatic of Xenagos will also add 2 devotion because it has one of each. Devotion will be far from a problem in a gruul deck. Plus the deck is already based around big beastly creatures and the new minor god Xenagos fits right along with what the deck already does. So he's not a 4 of in the deck and you side him out against control for a better match up. That does not make him bad or unplayable.

January 15, 2014 10:30 p.m.

robrone9 says... #44

Yea, Mistcutter Hydra and Stormbreath Dragon are the only guys right now, but imagine everyone having haste! Or just imagine a Kalonian Hydra with haste, if you like.

January 15, 2014 10:31 p.m.

No

January 15, 2014 10:42 p.m.

Those who are dismissing him because Stormbreath Dragon does more at first are forgetting that GR can play Kalonian Hydra too. And with Nylea, God of the Hunt giving everyone Trample, Polukranos, World Eater and Arbor Colossus become ridiculous as well. This card will definitely see play.

January 16, 2014 5:16 a.m.

I'm also happy to see Wild Beastmaster getting some love on this thread. Put some Ghor-Clan Rampager in there, and you have yourself +6/+6 for the team out of nowhere. Mix in Ogre Battledriver to make it a more consistent option.

January 16, 2014 5:23 a.m.

So I think I'm the first person to purchase Xenagos, God of Revels. Won the first auction of 4x and paid $12.50 a piece. Not on SCG or any other site. I think he will end up at Thassa, God of the Sea level/value.

January 16, 2014 8:41 a.m.

How has nobody mentioned DAT ART? Foil, anyone? I want.

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January 16, 2014 8:47 a.m.

Schuesseled says... #50

I bought two at 14 bucks a piece, just under 20 pounds total. Considering how at release he'll probably be way more i think that was a smart choice.

If you are planning on buying one or two or more, now would be prudent.

January 16, 2014 10:02 a.m.

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