Budget Hombrew U/G ramp (Shelved)

Standard* Xinofos

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Bass_f13nd says... #1

More creatures!!! Vizier of the menagerie should be where bounty of the luxa is and add 2 copies of pull from tomorrow

July 16, 2017 12:40 a.m.

Interesting list, but that average cmc seems a little high. May i suggest some dorks?

July 16, 2017 2:22 a.m.

Xinofos says... #3

Bass_f13nd: Bounty is kinda of an experiment atm. but it does offer card draw and ramp. I wanna playtest more before kicking it off. Pull is interesting, will also need to test that.

seshiro_of_the_orochi: Yeah, you are propably right, will axe River Hoopoe for Naga Vitalist

July 16, 2017 8:48 a.m.

Bass_f13nd says... #4

Bounty is good for limited however in constructed standard play it ends up as a wasted turn 4 cause you cant do anything with it.

July 16, 2017 9:48 a.m.

Xinofos says... #5

Yeah, fair point. Added a couple more dorks, 1 vizier. :)

July 17, 2017 7:59 a.m.

michael921 says... #6

So, this is a nice first attempt at a ramp deck, but there are some things that you can do to vastly improve the deck. First of all, ramp decks want to either go 2-4-6-8 mana, stopping at either 6 or 8 for the payoff cards, or go 1-3-5-7. Your deck is currently trying to do both, and thus will fail at both. If you want to go for even spells, Hedron Archive, Bounty of the Luxa, Kiora, Master of the Depths or Oasis Ritualist are all great 4 CMC ramp spells that help you get up to the more expensive payoffs. If you want to play odd spells, Spring / Mind, and Weaver of Currents are decent, but Hour of Promise is THE best ramp spell in standard at the moment, allowing you to get two Shrine of the Forsaken Gods, and then cast Ulamog on turn 5. However, as it looks like you're going for a desert theme, Hour of Promise is STILL great as it'll allow you to get some zombies to use as chump blockers.

Second, your deck is too inconsistant. Ramp decks already have the problem of drawing the wrong half of their deck, so you have to try and counteract that by playing as many four ofs and have as much redundancy as possible. I would go up to 6-8 first tier ramp spells like mana dorks, or 3 CMC ramp, then 4-6 tier two ramp spells, but those numbers may be too low. Similarly on the note of numbers, you may not be playing enough lands to make a ramp deck. Check out this article and this one for more information on how many lands to play.

Now onto reccomended cuts. Don't play Ipnu Rivulet, but play a full playsest of your other three deserts if you want to keep the desert subtheme. Next, you have this graveyard theme with Ramunap Excavator and Hostile Desert. I would get rid of this. You don't need a graveyard theme with no way to incidentally mill you with little to no payoff. Similarly, I don't think Vizier of the Menagerie is worth it in a ramp deck, as it's best when you can chain together many smaller creatures, rather than one larger spell in a turn.

Hopefully some of this should help!

July 17, 2017 8:51 a.m.

Xinofos says... #7

Cheers for the advise. I think for now I'll go for the 2/4/6 ramp. Mainly cause there is no 1 drop ramp (which makes me sad). Also worked on the lands, with a lot of Cycling and Scrying i don't there there is too much of a need for Evolving Wilds, though I may be wrong. considering moving the Greater Sandwurm for a pair of Hour of Promise, and if I do, will leave the 1-off Hostile desert as a fetch.

Also looking towards next format now, so going to avoid card that will rotate soon. Vizier dropped for Walking Ballista, as the ballista is a better mana sink.

So overall, edits are:-4 Ramunap Excavator -4 Beneath the Sands-4 Evolving Wilds-1 Vizier of the Menagerie-1 Ipnu Rivulet-1 Hostile Desert

+4 Oasis Ritualist+4 Bounty of the Luxa+2 Desert of the Indomitable+2 Desert of the Mindful+1 Island+1 Walking Ballista+1 Hashep Oasis

July 22, 2017 6:36 a.m. Edited.

Vidar91 says... #8

Working on a similar themed deck. I would recommend something that lets you put the Honored Hydra in the graveyard and pay its embalm cost. Otherwise Haze of Pollen seems like a must for any slow green deck.

August 21, 2017 9:54 a.m.

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