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Decanter of Endless Water
Artifact
You have no maximum hand size.
: Add one mana of any colour.
multimedia on Brew my deck for me
2 weeks ago
Consider High Tide for ramp and/or with spells that can untap your Islands Turnabout, Frantic Search, Snap? Just Tide + Turnabout + you control 4 Islands could give you 10 mana turn 4. Mystic Sanctuary is a fantasic land that's an Island. Castle Vantress isn't an Island, but it's a good land for instant repeatable scry.
Consider Thought Vessel and/or Decanter of Endless Water? Mana rocks for ramp that can also potentially give you no max hand size before you control Nezahal. Reliquary Tower is a land for no max hand size.
Consider Forensic Researcher, Kelpie Guide, etc.? They can untap a land or a land that can make more than 1 mana Arid Archway, Guildless Commons even the same turn the land ETB. They can also untap a mana rock or even better a mana rock that can make more than 1 mana Sol Ring, Worn Powerstone, Palladium Myr, Thran Dynamo, Hedron Archive
, Gilded Lotus, etc. They can also untap Nezahal to be a blocker.
A spell advantage blue has are instants that let you look at top X cards of your library and put one or more of any of them into our hand (any card(s) into hand is the advantage). Consider Impulse, Memory Deluge, Dig Through Time, Supreme Will, Thassa's Intervention, etc.? When you're casting instants on opponents' turns then Wavebreak Hippocamp is repeatable card draw. Being a 3 drop you can more safely play it and leave up mana for instant opponent interaction.
Gidgetimer on Should I Replace Arcane Signet …
1 year ago
For Chulane in particular, a 1-mana dork is significantly better than almost any rock. I wouldn't necessarily cut arcane signet looking at the deck. I would probably cut Thought Vessel, Decanter of Endless Water, and Commander's Sphere all before Arcane Signet.
SufferFromEDHD on
I am Become Nezahal, Destroyer of Worlds
1 year ago
Decanter of Endless Water potential mana rock upgrade
Triskaidekaphile potential win con.
Body of Knowledge on theme beater.
Venser's Journal this is probably win more but life gain in mono blue is neat.
Made_Compleat on
It's... Just a Bad Dream...
1 year ago
Hey! Love the deck. It certainly seems really good! Might I suggest a few tweaks:
Banehound isn't really great here. I'd recommend you cut it in favor of a more synergistic card.
You have a lot of non-mill cards. I think the deck could benefit from a more focused game plan.
More artifact ramp and commander protection would help you execute your mill plan more easily and consistently. Sol Ring, Mind Stone, Fellwar Stone or even Decanter of Endless Water are amazing. For protection, Winged Boots, Swiftfoot Boots, and Lightning Greaves are all great options.
Finally consider adding Rogue's Passage - it's pretty much another Access Tunnel.
Immortalys on Card Draw Tag
1 year ago
So I just made a Jhoira, Weatherlight Legends deck, focussing on Legends (of course) with a card draw theme.
With a Card Draw theme I mean cards like Jori En, Ruin Diver, Kraum, Ludevic's Opus and Honden of Seeing Winds for straight up card draw.
Cards like Alandra, Sky Dreamer and Minn, Wily Illusionist for second card drawn each turn (I know this is a tag already).
Cards that pay of drawing lots of cards like Niv-Mizzet, Parun, Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind, The Locust God and Teferi, Temporal Pilgrim.
Cards that pay you off for having lots of cards in hand like Alrund, God of the Cosmos Flip, Hisoka, Minamo Sensei and Meishin, the Mind Cage.
And other cards with card draw synergies like Teferi's Ageless Insight and Jace, Wielder of Mysteries.
Also cards that grant an unlimited hand size like Nezahal, Primal Tide, Thought Vessel, Decanter of Endless Water, Wizard Class and the good old Reliquary Tower.
So how come there is no Card Draw tag yet?
amarthaler on
EDH Kardur, Doomscourge
1 year ago
Updates!
Out: The Meathook Massacre... Blood Artist... Zulaport Cutthroat... Falkenrath Noble
In: Decanter of Endless Water... Thought Vessel... Night's Whisper... Yahenni, Undying Partisan
Licecolony on
Goaded With The Sauce
1 year ago
I really like your manifest take on Jon. Consider Dulcet Sirens. It's a clever way to mitigate risk of having those horrible creatures for yourself. I'll definitely be adding Crawlspace and Endless Whispers to my list.
Suggested removals from deck Plague Reaver. While it's a nice card to give away, the turn you play it you'll have to sacrifice Jon Irenicus to Plague Reaver's trigger regardless of which order you put the abilities onto the stack. You'd rather not lose Jon.
Gisa, Glorious Resurrector. It's something you can't give away, which means it's good when you're ahead, but not great when you're behind,. Your mileage may vary, but I think getting something more immediately impactful on the board tends to be best.
Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker. You're not running a mill strategy, you'll only be filling the graveyard of dedicate graveyard decks.
Taniwha. I love this creature and totally understand running it for the memes, but phasing triggers before your upkeep, which means that when you give it away, it'll be phased out for the first turn under your opponent, so they'll keep their lands and you won't draw a card from Jon's ability. The turn cycle has to make two full rounds before Taniwha does anything.
Tergrid, God of Fright Flip. Unlike Sheoldred, Tergrid doesn't make the opponent do either of its effects. It's another creature you don't want to give away, and Jon makes cards unsacrificeable. It just won't trigger much unless you're against a sacrifice deck.
Ensnaring Bridge. The creatures you donate will often be quite big. Ensnaring bridge will prevent them from attacking your opponents and deny you card draw.
Chromatic Lantern. It's only good if you need the mana fixing. You don't need the mana fixing. Try something like Thought Vessel or Decanter of Endless Water or Midnight Clock instead.
Assault Suit doesn't goad the creatures itself. Often they'll swing at you if possible.
Dissipation Field. Not as good as it looks. Doubles ETB triggers. Anti synergy with cards like Endless Whispers.
No Mercy Jon just has better options for this slot. If you can replace a non-creature with a creature in this deck, you usually want to.
Grave Betrayal. That's 7 mana for a card that could ruin your game by forcing you to revive bad cards you do not want.
Diplomatic Immunity. You want instant speed protection and protection from board wipes. Something like March of Swirling Mist is more versatile offensively and defensively.
Dark Ritual. I'm uncertain what you're trying to ramp into so quickly that you would need this. Maybe I'm wrong.
Countersquall. You may as well play the one mana version in An Offer You Can't Refuse.
Redirect may be bested by Narset's Reversal? That's a matter of opinion.
AEtherize risks bouncing creatures attacking other opponents such as those you've goaded but want them to keep. Try replacing this with a more versatile effect like Reins of Power or a more aggressive effect in Illusionist's Gambit.
Damnation. Jon prefers sacrifice board wipes so that your opponents keep their shit creatures.
Overall I think you could run less counter-magic in favor of more proactive effects.
Cards to Consider Creatures Generally I want to focus on adding creatures that you can give away and then steal back later to win the game.
With Jon, you often want cheap evasive creatures to give out for early card draw with his ability. Right now you have 1 two-drop creature. Throwing in a Changeling Outcast or a Slither Blade can mean you can give a creature away for cheap and still hold up mana for other things. Slither blade wouldn't die to Heartless Summoning too.
In the two-drop slot, you can run creatures that are more defensive like Baleful Strix, or give you card draw like Sygg, River Cutthroat or just more powerful creatures like Flesh Reaver which is a goaded 6/6 that can deal 12 damage a turn or Wretched Anurid. Heck, you can even add a versatile two-drop in Dimir Infiltrator which can be given away in the early game or used as a tutor in the late-game.
In the three drop slot, I think your idea of adding Steel Golem is a great one to make sure the only creatures your opponent has are the ones you're giving them. It's a brutal card. Rotting Regisaur is a card you don't mind giving away early, and can take back later to win. Phyrexian Soulgorger can be donated to an opponent as a goaded 10/10. They won't have to pay the upkeep, but that's a great body to give someone as a political tool. Cephalid Facetaker is also worth consideration though I personally don't run it.
In the four-drop slot, like you mentioned, Grid Monitor is a proactive creature counter. Abyssal Persecutor can save you from death. Archfiend of the Dross is risky but fun (it comes back to your control after the opponent dies).
In the 5-drop slot, both of the evil-eye cards are absolute ALL STARS. They work so well every game I've drawn them. They can also replace some of your weaker defenses like No Mercy and Dissipation Field
As a sidenote, I also like Deep-Sea Kraken as an unblockable 8/8 that can win you the game with homeward path.
Removal I recommend running more sacrifice-based removal since it'll mean your opponents keep the crap you give them. Things like Tergrid's Shadow or Vona's Hunger or All is Dust (one of my favorites) or Killing Wave. I also prefer Toxic Deluge to some of your other removal since it goes through hexproof. Curse of the Swine is also an exile effect that can be selective and works really well. You can also run single-target removal like Reality Shift or Pongify if you'd rather instant speed interaction. Feed the Swarm is quality. If you really don't care about cruelty, you can run Torment of Hailfire, but that card is honestly always too boring for me to want in my decks.
Card Draw Jon has access to some great card draw that most decks can't take advantage of. Fateful Handoff is a card draw spell that also donates (though does not goad). Sygg, River Cutthroat works well with evasive threats you give away (though should not be donated). Verity Circle works great with Jon's ability since it donates the creature first, and then taps it down. Teferi's Ageless Insight allows you to double your draw triggers from Jon.
Equipment Remember that you can donate creatures while they're equipped and you still control the equipment so they can't re-equip it. Pact Weapon makes the attacking creature bigger, while ensuring you can't die, and will draw you another card whenever the donated creature attacks. Dowsing Dagger Flip works effectively on evasive creature to get you ramped. Vorpal Sword is a win condition on your unblockable evasive creatures.
Goad Dulcet Sirens, Bloodthirsty Blade.
Misc Graveyard removal is king. Throw in a Scavenger Grounds. My favorite card to run is Reality Shift. Make an Avenger of Zendikar spawn a dozen Wretched Anurids. It's not GREAT, but it is always funny. Cultural Exchange is a fun time too with all your manifest and shitty creatures.
That is all. Hope it was helpful.
wallisface on
Divine Rust
1 year ago
Some thoughts:
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A bunch of your cards aren't modern-legal. They're all the one's highlighted in red, so Archangel of Strife, Exalted Angel, Noble Templar, Wizards of Thay, Decanter of Endless Water, Robe of the Archmagi, Sol Ring, Ascend from Avernus, Fountain of Cho, Seat of the Synod, Promise of Tomorrow, and Reverent Mantra.
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You're playing a lot more cards than the 60 required. Any amount of cards over 60 reduces a decks consistency and generally makes it weaker - I'd suggest heavily on trying to cut back to 60 cards.
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You're currently playing waaay too many cards as 1-ofs or 2-ofs. This is going to make your deck super inconsistent and clumsy to pilot. You should be aiming for the majority of your deck to be playsets (4-ofs) of cards. A good strategy for new deckbuilders is to pick 9 cards, and run playsets (4-ofs) of each of those (making 36 cards) alongside 24 lands (for a 60 card deck).
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Your mana curve is waay too high. Most modern decks can't justify running more than 4 cards (1 playset) costing 4 mana, and seldom run anything costing more than this much mana. You've got a whopping 23 cards costing 4-or-more mana, which is far too much. Going from the above suggestion of picking 9 cards, the mana costs of those cards should look something like 1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4.
