Primal Adversary

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Pre-release Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Standard Legal
Standard Brawl Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Primal Adversary

Creature — Wolf

Trample

When this enters the battlefield, you may pay any number of times, then put that many +1/+1 counters on this creature, and up to that many lands you control become 3/3 Wolf creatures with haste that are still lands.

deathtrapXleed on

2 years ago

Just to let you know, you have two Primal Adversary.

Gidgetimer on “Budget” Xenagos Ground & Pound

2 years ago

Assuming that you want to keep the deck pretty inexpensive, the creatures with the best monetary cost to power in the deck ratio that I have found:

Verdurous Gearhulk

Inferno Titan

Primal Adversary

Heroes' Bane

Etali, Primal Storm

Atarka, World Render

Hydra Omnivore

Godo, Bandit Warlord is also pretty good, but it is great with Embercleave which is decidedly not budget.

Necrosis24 on Adversary Cycle

3 years ago

In terms of commander I think they can be pretty fun, although not as strong as they initially seem when you realize how mana intensive they really are.

Intrepid Adversary: I would put in a Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa deck for some flicker shenanigans. Swing in with my white weenies then flicker Intrepid Adversary paying its etb to pump my unblocked creatures.

Spectral Adversary: Good for its flexibility and would maybe put it in a simic or bant deck. I like that it can target itself.

Tainted Adversary: Grave Titan but not as good

Bloodthirsty Adversary: meh

Primal Adversary I do not care for.

All of these have more efficient cards that more or less do the same, so these cards more of a fun include.

Oof_Magic on Adversary Cycle

3 years ago

wallisface

I think Intrepid Adversary had the same pitfalls any true lord would. And that’s probably why Thalia's Lieutenant outclasses it. If Humans were tightened down, they could probably work it in but as is, Humans aren’t looking for much.

Spectral Adversary is much more than a bad Rattlechains. It sits between Rattlechains and Brazen Borrower. That versatility of applications is valuable enough to consider for Spirits (which plays Borrower). Just like Intrepid Adversary and Bloodthirsty Adversary, it only has one potential home.

As such, Primal Adversary and Tainted Adversary being at the bottom as far as Modern is concerned.

I wouldn’t know how to analyze these from the Standard lens but I think it would go something like this:

1) Intrepid Adversary

2) Primal Adversary

3) Spectral Adversary

4) Tainted Adversary

5) Bloodthirsty Adversary

wallisface on Adversary Cycle

3 years ago

Oof_Magic:

  • The big issue with Intrepid Adversary is that, other than there just being soo many cards better than it it modern, is that it risks you getting blown-out heavily by your opponent casting a well-timed killspell, which could end up costing you most of your board.

  • Spectral Adversary has an issue where it's just a bad Rattlechains in almost every situation. And spirits already have soo many better ways to protect their dudes, on top of that. I just don't see where this card has a home.

  • As you've already mentioned, Bloodthirsty Adversary is very similar to Goblin Dark-Dwellers, so might see some fringe play in decks of that vein (potentially even replacing Dwellers, if the deck is wanting to confine itself to running something like Lurrus of the Dream-Den, or Unearth). Imo this is the only one of the 5 that will even come close to seeing modern play, because it explores some interesting avenues, and this effect has seen play in modern already.

  • Tainted Adversary and Primal Adversary are clearly the weakest of the 5, and I'm not sure its worth discussing either of these... but they generally just demand too much mana for no real payoff.

Oof_Magic on Adversary Cycle

3 years ago

wallisface

I think that’s generally true but a bit more nuanced. I think Spectral Adversary and Intrepid Adversary have a shot in Modern. I can’t speak to Tainted Adversary and Primal Adversary as they lack homes and as such probably have less of a shot in the format. Intrepid Adversary gets outclassed by Thalia's Lieutenant in the one home it could have and Humans is really tight and probably not looking for redundancy. A similar case goes for Bloodthirsty Adversary which would only serve as redundancy for the bigger Goblin Dark-Dwellers in land destro which is much more fringe than Humans and Spirits. I think blue has the best shot in Modern as it has a home and really comes down to whether the tribal body is more impactful to its deck than the split utility efficiency of Brazen Borrower. I think the offensive and defensive versatility is promising.