[Community Discussion]: The unsung heroes.
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Posted on Jan. 9, 2014, 10:44 p.m. by Epochalyptik
Time for another Community Discussion thread!
Play this game long enough and you'll encounter plenty of people, and plenty of types of people. You might not remember all of them, but maybe you remember some. Sometimes, you remember them because they're great players or bad sports. And sometimes you remember them because they did something nice for a fellow player and human. Little or big, acts of kindness are an important force in turning this game's player base into a community. Share an MTG-related story about a time when someone impressed you or made you smile.
Maybe someone offered help to the new player at FNM. Maybe someone caught a thief stealing someone's collection. There are tons of stories that never get told, but still make us smile when we think about them.
miracleHat says... #3
It was my first trade that i had ever done with anybody. The person who i was trading with was a complete jerk. When I asked for a price, he didn't show me the price that was on his phone, and i learned later that he was grossly exaggerating his prices. This one guy who was playing a game right next to us interrupted the trade and his game and said something like, "stop lying and cheating others. Kid, your Geist of Saint Traft isn't worth $10, it's worth $20." When i heard that, i was so pissed at the guy that i was trading with. i just ended up canceling the trade in two seconds. After his game, the nice guy apparently needed the geist, so he traded me a Snapcaster Mage (or some other high value card) for it (after i approved the trade with my brother. I asked my brother if the trade was a good trade and he said yes so it went through).
January 9, 2014 11:14 p.m.
vampirelazarus says... #4
Not to toot my own horn, but I've given away countless cards. Generally, I only keep the ones that are $5 and above, or ones that I think will rise in value. Pretty much everything else is up for grabs, when I bring it to my LGS, anyways.
January 9, 2014 11:29 p.m.
mageslayer0 says... #5
I've been playing since 9th edition and I usually go to FNM. I play competitively and one night I was upset because my deck was running crappy, it usually finishes top 8. I played this kid who I found out was 11, the exact same age I started playing magic. I won the match 2-0 and what he said "its ok that I lost I just like playing to have fun" he took his loses in stride. It hit me then that I played for the wrong reason. When I was younger I played to have fun and I strayed from that, its quite humbling when you see a younger version of yourself take loses on the chin and still walk away happy.
January 9, 2014 11:52 p.m.
ColdHeartedSith says... #6
One thing I can say about being unsung is, kids young 14-20 don't take advice and seemingly don't absorb what you tell them. I can't count how many times ive made someone's brew look silly playing against it, just playing good magic and making good decisions on when I tap my mana and using a well curved deck with a good land base and synergy and win conditions. Then after I win the opponent asks me what they are doing wrong and will I look at their deck. The answer..sure as always, first I point out missplay's they made then tell them the proper approch to get advantage, I also explain the importance of waiting till after combat to tap and cast as the board state may change and a different play or fake maybe required unless there is real advantage and synergy on the 1rst mainphase play. Then I look at the deck and usually notice the land amount,and colors is out of sync with the spell base and curve and address that , then creature selection and other spells selection and synergy. When I'm done its 15 mins later and I miss my smoke break. The very next week that kid plays the same deck the same way and this repeats itself infinity. That is what being an unsung hero is. It is wonderful when you actually meet an intelligent new player that listens, succeeds and appreciates you as a mentor but it rarely happens. I hope some new players on here read this and think about this comment the next time a good player gives you 15 mins. Pay attention :)
January 10, 2014 12:01 a.m.
When I first started playing I was unable to afford to get cards very often and traded off of everyone else around me with my rather meager holdings. Such was how it went for a while where I didn't have more than 200 cards total. At one point there was a guy who opened a bunch of M11 and took the rares and gave me the pile of the rest because he saw I didn't have much to work with. More than quadrupled what I had to work with. It was simple and it didn't have to be done but it was very nice and it kept me playing the game to the point where I am now. Thanks random guy out there!
January 10, 2014 12:05 a.m.
ColdHeartedSith says... #8
NICE lol..Most seasoned players will do that as I always do. Our houses and storage space isn't unlimited and constant success in FNMs and IQ renders lots of packs and doubles. I don't even care if my LGS has Theros in stock for FNM I just wanna play and I love store credit, I take home 1 card that I really want and feel like I won. Which is basically what i'd do if I was to open say 10 packs. Take 1 card then feed the lions.
January 10, 2014 12:24 a.m.
There are these two brothers that frequent the LGS my brother and I go to, and they were also Asian; my brother and I proceeded to talk about how we were destined to replace them as the two Asian brothers of the shop once they're too old. They're always there and one always drafts and one always plays standard on FNMs. They seem genuine and has helped me and my brother learn a bit about some more vague interactions in Magic during our first FNM.
I've drafted in the same pod with one for like 2/3rds of my drafting experience and he's always been one to start friendly conversations or jokefully talk smack.
January 10, 2014 12:42 a.m.
EightAndAHalfFingers says... #10
I have this friend, he has a big collection of cards, every time I get a new deck he reviews it and hand me a couple of cards that are pretty useful, he denies to take anything in return, I mean, some of the cards are from old sets and are practically irreplaceable, when I lost my first deck (sad story, but it was kinda crappy) I was only concerned about the cards he gave me, to this day he has never been upset about it.
January 10, 2014 12:55 a.m.
thataddkid says... #11
EightAndAHalfFingers, I think it's safe to say almost everyone's first deck was crappy, lol.
January 10, 2014 6:32 a.m.
RussischerZar says... #12
Although I've been playing Magic very vividly online through DotP and Cockatrice for like 2 or 3 years I only started playing with actual cards around one year ago, on a sealed Gatecrash FNM. Since then I've mostly gathered cards through sealed events like the pre-releases.
On a free Magic day event last summer after the "main event" I traded some stuff and got some nice cards for a Bant-deck I had in mind. Then some people came over to me and asked 'hey, do you want to play?' - I was like 'Sure!' - They asked me 'Do you have a Commander deck?' - but obviously I didn't have one.
So they convinced me to build one on the fly ('yeah that won't work, I don't even have basic lands here!'). I also had most of my cards like the more regular commons and uncommons at home. But I just had traded a Prime Speaker Zegana
that day that I planned to put in that Bant deck and proceeded to make her my commander.
I used the next 10 minutes to throw together pretty much all green and blue cards I had in my binder, and one of the guys even gave me a french Unsummon
for free since I was a bit desperate for cards to add. Then I bought 100 sleeves and borrowed some basic lands from the store and I played my first real-life commander game.
The best part of it was, I actually won that commander game and they were like 'wtf, you just built this in 10 minutes with random stuff!', haha. Thus my first actual commander deck was born Zegana's 10 Minute Speech, which has evolved a lot since then.
January 10, 2014 6:37 a.m.
RussischerZar says... #13
Why my above post is an unsung heroes story: the guys inspired me through my reluctance to do something I probably wouldn't have done otherwise and helped me by gifting me a card, albeit only a common one.
I since had a lot of fun with that deck and it actually has a more than 60% win rate, which is rather impressive in a FFA format.
January 10, 2014 6:49 a.m.
KnightsBattlecry001 says... #14
A friend of mine after a fnm was trying to trade with someone else. He set aside a card he was gonna trade while he looked to see what he wanted. None of us saw it, but a kid had walked up and grabbed the card and walked off. My friend looked to get his card he was gonna trade and noticed it was gone. He was freaking out pretty bad.
We then noticed another regular there arguing with the kid who took the card. Saying give the card back now or I report you to the store owner. We all came over and my friend asked what happened. The guy said that the kid took the card. The kid kept denying it and after a few minutes of us telling the kid he needs to give it back he finally does.
My friend thanked the other guy for what he done because honestly nobody else would have gotten his back. I ended up cracking a smile because my friend is basically family and it was great seeing someone get his back. The kid who attempted to steal the card has not been back since as well.
January 10, 2014 7:45 a.m.
For me there are quite a few people that I could mention, the first and most important to me was 'Tuck', he was the first 'great' player I met (way back in the day) and had the best collection (playsets of beta/unlimited/legends/antiquities/the dark/arabian nights), he was always open to talk to and give advice and help. He was the shops guru. It was mostly him and his influence why I continued to play magic. This same shop owners, while not magic players, where great people also and helped me through some tough times.
Other people and places I hung out in had similar folks, but he helped learn all the rules, from banding/rampage, to mastering the batch system and playing blue much better than I could have for the level of experience I had.
Where I currently play, there are quite a few just like him and they deserve no less credit. Recently, one of them was helping a newbie build a commander deck, Borborygmos Enraged . He knew the shop had a foil Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle . He bought the card for the guy and gave it to him. He also has helped me build legacy merfolk by giving most of the uncommon merfolk from lowryn/shadowmoor he had and wasn't using (A 40$ value).
There is a player who was a grinder and when he's around always has advice and helpful tips to give out.
There is another player who started way back when who plays exclusively EDH, and pre-releases, unless he wants a gameday promo, then he plays constructed. He's the same with advice, stories, and allowed me to make a trade for Wasteland
from him, for Elspeth, Sun's Champion
and Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
with a card or cards to be named latter.
There are a few others that are similar, whether it's deck building or trade or value or rulings or on 'how to play this' that are always there and willing to share and give up advice.
I can't speak enough of these folks in my playgroup, past and present. For the most part they've always been good people and set a tone that is fair and honest. I've never had an issue with folks about trading or being dicks because of that tone they've set at any of the LGS's I've played at.
January 10, 2014 8:39 a.m.
At DGM pre-release, we had (they moved) this family come and play, they used to host innistrad drafts before there was a LGS that actually had time for real drafts and the like. Good family. Though one of the sons was arrogant and a dick. Mostly unintentional, he just had that attitude, "I'm smarter than you and that's it." So he was always correcting people, never looking at things he didn't see as the 'smart way' and so on. He also put people down and spoke down to folks. I mean he was so bad this way, shortly before he moved, he got in a fight at his school and people cheered, people at my LGS, when the story came around, cheered.
Anyways, there was this new guy at our lgs for that tourny. Nobody knew him or who he was. He just showed up. The midnight release, he apparently had a Sphinx's Revelation
, this went unnoticed. By sunday, The guy I talked about above, had researched online about the possible cards in each pre-constructed pack. He noticed the new guy had a Lobber Crew
in his deck (now to the new guys credit he choose guilds that would have these cards, if they were possible), Lobber Crew
just was not a possible card in the guild pack he had. So the regular went to the shop owner and told him of what he saw and knew, the shop owner did a deck check and dq'ed the guy.
Morale of the story, nobody likes a cheater, not even the assholes.
January 10, 2014 8:51 a.m.
the3rdH0kage says... #17
I try to help new players the best I can with whatever I've had on hand (I've given Trostani's away when they were $10), whenever I buy packs, if it's a good rare or has a decent uncommon I take those out and give the rest away. I figure it's what players did for me when I was getting into the game, so why not keep the pattern going. I gave a brand new player who was playing some R/B Burn deck a set of Magma Jet and a few Dreadbore a few weeks.
January 10, 2014 9:21 a.m.
Someone at my LGS gave my friend basically a whole Gruul deck, which is still working good now. Afterwards a different guy helped my friend build that Gruul deck, and then my friend kept getting free cards for the deck :D.
January 10, 2014 10:37 a.m.
killroy726 says... #19
Not to long ago I was searching for a card for my EDH deck Ghostway to be precise (which is about a $3 dollar card). Anyways Ive been hunting that card for years and no one seemed to have it. (I don't like to shop online long story) Then one day I notice this guy actually had the card sitting in his rare binder and i asked him if he would trade for it. I also knew at that time and still is true my binder is horrible and only has $.25-$1.00 rares in it and even less valuable foils (my pack pulls are a nightmare). But the guy just gave it to me without any trade or money offer, said that he would never use the card anyways. Ill never forget that kindness and look to do the same for others one day.
January 10, 2014 11:57 a.m.
Quadsimotto says... #20
Having come back to the game only about six months or so ago i have been spending lots and lots of money on cards i want. Sifting through the boxes at the LGS buying stacks at a time. Never really making any trades and never really bringing my full collection to the shop. The keeper of the shop having seen me at only one FNM but having seen me at the shop quite a bit during my off time approached me one day with a massive stack of promotional cards from the last two years. Foils, sets i had not seen, cards i wasnt looking for but was happy to receive... He said to me. "Hey man i know your just now starting to play again and im only supposed to give these as promotion but the owner just hoarded these and never gave them out. Here you take em', There is pile of these in the back and you have spent a shitload of money here in the last two months. Maybe this will keep you coming to this shop." Havent really played anywhere else since. Still spending a load of money in there whenever im in country.
January 10, 2014 11:58 a.m.
My little brother and I went to the Theros game day at a shop out of town while visiting a friend. My brother was trying to get some of the promo Phalanx Leader s for his heroic deck, but nobody would trade him. I mean, his binder isn't great, but even if he was just a random 13 year old I would have given it to him.
Feeling disheartened, he asked the clerk if he could buy another. The guy got a few out of the stack, slid them to my brother, and said "put these in your pocket," and gave him a wink.
That's a damn swell thing to do, if you ask me.
January 10, 2014 2:22 p.m.
The people at my LGS are so friendly, you can forget and leave anything there and nobody will take them, you can basically just leave your whole $400 deck out just laying there not guarded and it'll be there still when you come back from doing some trading or stuff
January 10, 2014 3:58 p.m.
blackmarker90 says... #23
I would have to say that the biggest Unsung Hero is my LGS TO. She lets my son open a pack every week after FNM and let's him keep everything (I usually pull the rare out and keep it), but the biggest reason this means so much to me is because my son is autistic. We have day struggles with everything from getting dressed in the morning for school to eating dinner at night, but every week he knows that come Friday we will go to town for FNM and he will get to play with the TO while everyone is completing their matches and at the end if the night there is a pack waiting for him hopefully with a new "shiny one" in it. I will rue the day this child opens a valuable foil.
January 10, 2014 4:21 p.m.
Darkness1835 says... #24
My friend Benny from my LGS taught me about priority, and for that I will always love him. He also always kicked my butt at drafting FNM. A good player, even better guy.
January 10, 2014 4:26 p.m.
Quadsimotto says... #25
@ blackmarker90 That is really cool of her. My little girl has autism too. They are the coolest kids with their quirks and things they say. She constantly cracks me up and spending time with her is the highlight of my time off of work.
January 10, 2014 4:31 p.m.
Back during the release of DGM, I went to a prerelease at a game store that was nearby where I'd lived at the time. Every round, the owner would draw a random name from the pool of players and they would recieve a random prize, which was usually a nice pack of sleeves, etc. Be it bad luck, coincidence, or whatever, the person who won it was ALWAYS a person I was facing or sitting next to. At first it started off funny but after three or four times it got to the point where it was sort of a running gag -- him coming over and looking at me as he gave things to others, and then me subsequently feigning being upset and cursing at the great rng gods.
After the night ended and prizes were being handed out, I ended up being just outside of the prize pool. And then he did something awesome. As a sort of gift for me putting up with the circumstances, he gave me one of those golden ultra pro double-deck boxes! I was shocked. I mean, I really wasn't too upset about losing out on the sleeves. But I still use that deck box exclusively. It meant a lot to me.
January 10, 2014 4:33 p.m.
I really can't think of anyone other than my cousin, who let me borrow his collection and build my first deck from cards he had. It was a small gesture, but it went a long way. I still remember the deck, it was an Azorius Angel/Merfolk deck which was actually fun to play. I think that may be the reason Angels are my favorite creatures now.
Fast forward to now, we have Magic Club meetings every Wednesday after school, and I'm basically the go-to guy for rules or trade values. I frequently have to stop this one kid from scamming people, since he scammed me early on. I had bought a Karn Liberated for $15 about a year ago when I started playing, since he's my favorite walker. After I took him out of my deck and put him in my binder, the kid kept pestering me with trade offers until I finally caved and accepted a trade of Thrun, the Last Troll . He's one of those kids who their parents provide them with just about anything they want, and he shares a card pool with his dad. When I confronted him about the trade and how he ripped me off, he said that he didn't and that I should've checked the prices before I traded (in hindsight, I should've, but at the time I was in the middle of a very down-to-the-wire game and wanted to finish it first). I was new to trading and he refused to trade back, claiming that he already traded Karn away.
Thankfully he doesn't show up to club that often anymore, mainly because no one wants to play against his $500 competitive Modern deck, with good reason.
January 10, 2014 4:53 p.m.
Wainwright says... #28
Some great stories to read in a great thread.
I've only been playing about 6 months and I'm hooked even as a real later comer to the game of Magic; if I'd taken it up when I was a kid (which I regret not doing now) I would have had access to great cards I'm so desparately searching for now.
Anyways - my friends kind of co-erced me into playing intially - I started with the Golgari Izzet Duel decks no less. We played casually - and they'd assembled phenomenal decks in their time playing - my puny duel decks never could be a match.
After the first time playing I was a little jaded and was hesitant to go and play and again - but my friends talked me into it - unknown to me between the four of them (having seen that I was disappointed in my first week) they'd got me the Sorin Tibalt deck (it was my birthday the week before) - not only that but they'd gone through their collections and each gave me 3 playsets of things they rarely would use; there's too many to list here but Preordain and Geth's Verdict I remember well, in all the colors of those 4 duel decks, they then sat down for the whole day and started to explain how the cards they'd given me could be put in to the duel decks that I had to improve them. How to build decks - how to play the game.
We didn't play that day - but the advice they gave and the genorosity they showed is what got me hooked. All because they wanted me to enjoy the game and not give up. Now having played the game and made fairly big improvements in my playing and deck building; I've come to realise (something I didn't at the time) it would have taken them all a considerable amount of time to look at those duel decks and then go and find the cards in their collections that would improve what I had, literally everything they gave me, provided my decks a boost.
They've been a constant source of information and help when I began building my own decks from scratch - and always thrown cards from their collections my way. And at our regular meetups a card is usually thrown across the table with the phrase "I saw this at the LGS or in a trade binder and thought of your xxxx deck".
Magic is a fun game - no a great game - but it is tough starting out (getting the cards or understanding the game play) - remembering how people helped you at the very beginning (as someone probably did with them) and doing the same in return in future - is in my opinion what makes it even more special.
January 10, 2014 9:11 p.m.
xenith4127 says... #29
I think that the only story I can really tell is that I have known some players who were just generally really nice people. one of them, the stores best player, and I had a match against each other. some of the players were real jerks since I was new and asked questions, but this guy was just so nice and helpful. he really deserves a shout out.
January 11, 2014 10:39 a.m.
There are really two people that I owe my return to this game to.
My brother started playing and let me use his cards while I was still in school. He helped me catch up on the rules changes as well. He is generally a really good player (my only complaint is the time he takes thinking through turns at times ... which is really just him being a better player than me). He lends decks out quite often and attends events like drafts and pre-releases. He is fun to play with (I don't ever really hear complaints about him). I know he has "borrowed and not asked for back" several cards to different players, including his mentor. Also, I am pretty sure that he has gotten cards stolen from him without seeming to let it bother him at all (he probably would do well to organize his cards a little better).
In turn, my brother was taught the game by a friend of his from school (I would call this friend his "mentor" - my brother actually had a mentor and is similarly much more well meshed into the MTG community than me). This guy is probably pro-level in strategy and knows all the little things to look for to catch possible cheaters (something I usually don't think about). He was whipping EDH tables with is PDH deck. I think he sees a lot more in my brother than myself LOL. Beating him sporadically with my own brews seems to more piss him off than convince him otherwise.
I have tried to thank my brother by helping him buy cards now that he is in a tougher spot financially (although I have done it at the cost of trade from things he isn't using in his massive stash). I also have organized his cards for him (on more than one occasion - but one of those included a massive effort on my part rewarded by getting to keep a few commons and uncommons that he had more than full playsets of).
I guess I haven't done much to thank my brother's mentor and haven't really acknowledged or been shown much consideration from a mentor-type person, myself (possibly partly because I am a girl, and another part because I think I am a bit quick to pick the game back up and make threatening decks - even if I still don't always make the best plays I could), another part is probably my independent streak - something that I don't share with my brother so much).
January 11, 2014 11:15 a.m.
Not to toot my own horn, but when I used to frequent the LGS where I lived last year, I would get 1 pack with entry into FNM (or 3 and entry for $12) and they would almost always be crap. I would just turn around, find some little kid or newbie, and give him the whole thing. What meant very little to me likely made that kid's week.
I've played against plenty of jerks, too. I have a playset of Centaur Healer that I just doodled on with marker and they all have a word bubble on the art saying, "ETB+3!". At a somewhat high-stakes tournament, my opponent saw the card I was casting, through his hand in the air, screamed for a judge, glared at me, and when the judge came over, he pointed his finger at me like a 5-year-old and declared "I should get a game-win because he has notes on his card." Through more discussion and weird, false accusations, I was awarded the game-win because he was awarded "Poor Sportsmanlike Conduct", or whatever the official ruling is. I couldn't have been more pleased.
In that same tournament, this guy playing Junk Reanimator (last spring) was talking shit about everybody in my college town, talking to his friends obnoxiously loudly. "These Flagstaff scrubs don't even know the top decks in the format right now. Why would they even show up if they knew people from Phoenix would be here? lololololol" We played in Round 1 and I landed a game-1, turn-1 Deathrite Shaman . His facial expression after seeing my card is something I'll never forget, especially after playing a second one on turn-2.
January 11, 2014 2:34 p.m.
Also, when I was just learning to play and during maaayyybe my third FNM, I played against some jackass who was all high on himself. He played a Snapcaster Mage , I let it resolve, he made his target, and I went to exile it with Purify the Grave , and then he bitched and argued that it was "too late" and "the spell gains flashback when Snapcaster enters the battlefield," and to "read the card, kid." I was almost positive this was wrong, but I didn't bother as his spell didn't matter.
In that same match, I thought I heard my opponent say "Go ahead" to me, so I started untapping my lands. He freaked out, through his hands down on the table, and started yelling "IT'S NOT YOUR TURN - NOT YOUR TURN - NOT YOUR TURN!" to which I wittily replied with "Alright, calm down, bro. I thought you said go ahead, but if you want me to counter your next spell so I can untap and get on with this slow-play, be my guest." He didn't really care for that and called over a judge and accused me of being the unruly one. The judge (who was also the owner of the shop, and a good friend of mine) just rolled his eyes, sighed, and said he didn't want to hear anything out of my opponent or he'd get ejected from the shop. My opponent piped down after that and I handily won the game a few turns later.
tl;dr - When people are complete shit-heads, it really makes you appreciate a positive gaming environment where most people who go to your shop are your friends.
January 11, 2014 2:41 p.m.
miracleHat says... #33
@zandl: WOW, you have really met some real jerks! I guess that i count myself lucky when I haven't played against other jerks, but i have witnessed some. Also, another "unsung hero" for me would be (like a lot of other people) my brother. He bought me my first duel deck (knights Vs. dragons). He taught me early on that i was going to lose a lot of games. He has been playing since (i believe) revised. we would play and he would crush me pretty much every game. It helped me learn that i wouldn't win games, but it was okay because there would always be another chance to win. 3 years later, i now beat him 25% of the time and i am pretty happy with myself.
January 11, 2014 3:58 p.m.
When me and my husband first went to FNM, after all the games (we both lost, and a couple of people cheated us) one of the employees just flat out gave us 300+ of his own cards (nothing amazing but a lot of commons and uncommons), its was so awesome. Even to this day, that same guy is always so nice to everyone, always willing to help you build a deck or give you useful tips, he's a really awesome.
January 12, 2014 6:03 a.m.
lord_of_the_snakes says... #35
my lgs is amusing, everyone there (playing magic) is usually a good sport, and only a couple people occasionaly tilt out. oddly enough, only when they're playing me, the most memorable examples are when i was playing U/B control in theros draft against U/W voltron, he had no creatures out, and i had 3 of the flier who let me scry whenever i cast an instant, and a handful of counterspells. he tried to cast creatures, but they were all countered, he then proceeded to cus me out, and concede
the other game, was me playing G/R midrange vs G/R devotion at game day. i lost game one. game 2, i won with monstrous Colossus of Akros , which made him made, because he came in 1st, and i came in last, and i killed him with one of the most "unplayable" cards in theros.
thataddkid says... #2
My very first Mt:G event was the Theros prerelease. Being a medium-small shop, the store has to give something to the players to compensate for less prizes than the other big store in town. One of the guys who was running the events was passing out Ultra-Pro products, deckbockes, sleeves, you name it. He threw down sleeves at my table and a box to the guy sitting across from me. I looked at the sleeves and cheered silently at my free prize, but then I looked at the guy across from me. He saw me looking at the box, realized I was new and offered it to me. I told him to keep it, and that it was fine, but he insisted and I took it. I've used those sleeves and box for quite some time, about 3-4 months before switching to a new set of sleeves and a fat pack box. I probably would've carried my deck in a ziploc baggie had it not been for him, and it's not just the item I'm thankful for. It's the fact that he took probably a 5-8$ profit and handed it over free just to help out a newbie. It's things like this (and a 5-minute drive :P) that keep me coming to this store, and not the higher quality one in the same town.
January 9, 2014 10:52 p.m.