[Community Discussion]: Modern Chat

Modern forum

Posted on April 25, 2015, 8:42 p.m. by Epochalyptik

This thread is dedicated entirely to Modern. Feel free to post your thoughts on the meta, ideas for your next decklist, and just chat generally about the format!

Of course, you can always start a new thread if you're interested in discussing one particular aspect of the format; this thread should be used for the quick thoughts and informal questions about the format.

This discussion will be ongoing; you are free to post here as long as you're on topic.

This is NOT a deck help thread. Please do not spam deck help requests.

wwhitegoldd says... #1

so here's my thinking for the mythics in mm15

white - Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite

blue - clique (obviously)

black - Phyrexian Obliterator

red - Warren Instigator?? (not sure if there is any other red mythics that need reprinting. kiki was printed in the first mm)

green - ghoyf (obviously)

I'm thinking that they might reprint a differant white mythic then elesh norn and then reprint all the praetors like they did with the dragons in the first mm.

Also I do not think buying a box of mm15 is woth it for any reason. the only way you make your money back is if you get ghoyf OR a clique and some foil stuff other wise you are probably not making your money back let alone getting a profit.

April 26, 2015 2:16 p.m.

Scorprix says... #2

Maybe they'll just reprint the mythics from last MM...

April 26, 2015 2:25 p.m.

llamaglama01 says... #3

What do yall think about Silumgar's Scorn in merfolk?

April 26, 2015 2:36 p.m.

@llamaglama01 Why would that be in merfolk exactly?

April 26, 2015 2:37 p.m.

buildingadeck says... #5

Stick with Mana Leak. It's more consistent.

April 26, 2015 2:37 p.m.

The_Raven says... #6

llamaglama01.... Because they don't play dragons?

April 26, 2015 2:37 p.m.

VampireArmy says... #7

Caleb D has been messing with it. I think you have to assess if modern needs a hard counter and if it sets you back too much to be worth

April 26, 2015 2:37 p.m.

Snake_Oil says... #8

I'd come to the same conclusion recently after saying I'd get a box -- the money I could spend on it could be better served getting exactly what I need from it.

I really hope Hierarch isn't mythic... But that's a cold, lonely hope.

April 26, 2015 2:50 p.m.

wwhitegoldd says... #9

why would hierarch be mythic? birds isn't.

April 26, 2015 2:59 p.m.

I agree. it wont be mythic. VERY doubtful.

April 26, 2015 3 p.m.

NateJH says... #11

Clique is bumped up from rare to mythic from last MM.

April 26, 2015 3:02 p.m.

but its INSANE!

it DESERVES to be mythic. nobel, does not.

April 26, 2015 3:03 p.m.

VampireArmy says... #13

Clique honestly deserves mythic on a limited standpoint. Hierarch is close but i don't think it makes the cut.

April 26, 2015 3:04 p.m.

That was just because when Clique was first printed, the mythic rarity did not exist.

April 26, 2015 3:04 p.m.

NateJH says... #15

Ehhh, I don't care if its flavorful its needs a larger print run.

April 26, 2015 3:05 p.m.

Ryotenchi says... #16

Holy wow... so many pages.. Just woke up.. Hate it when my father cranks the heat up to 120..

JexInfinite - A 1000$ version of Little Kid junk, I know his buddy is playing Mono blue control of some kind, a bunch of standard decks modified to be able to play... I know there is a tron deck floating around.. and the delver disappeared.

Femme_Fatale... Um.. Draw two and Abrupt Decay for 3? o.o Insanity... Abrupt Decay is already bad enough.. they print that thing, my bears will have just become unplayable. control already stomps it.

April 26, 2015 3:50 p.m.

Scorprix says... #17

I have another crazy idea...

April 26, 2015 6:38 p.m.

And what's that?

April 26, 2015 6:59 p.m.

Scorprix says... #19

Have a NoPantsParade!Just kidding. But really, I should probably throw together the 4-color deck I posted a few pages back for FNM. I have MOST of the parts, and it sounds like it could really turn a few heads.

April 26, 2015 7:27 p.m.

NoPantsParade says... #20

Heh. It's always a no pants parade here.

Anyways, you can never go wrong with 4 color unless, you know, Blood Moon. Then it's just not fun. What's the list you're wanting to run, Scorprix?

April 26, 2015 7:35 p.m.

ChrisH says... #21

wotc leak said that Noble Hierarch is at rare I believe.

April 26, 2015 7:40 p.m.

How do we know he's legit though?

April 26, 2015 7:42 p.m.

ChrisH says... #23

No clue.

April 26, 2015 7:45 p.m.

firefox46 says... #24

I made this bant list just as DTK came out and I was wondering if you guys could take a look at it and give me some feedback. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/bant-midrange-new-kid-on-the-block-with-dtk/

Also since you guys were talking about Worship, I think you should look at this primer as it was insightful on bant in modern in general. http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern/deck-creation-modern/220249-bant

April 26, 2015 7:49 p.m.

Scorprix says... #25

@NoPantsParade: "Heh. It's always a no pants parade here."

Well, that gives me an idea of how prom ended.

April 26, 2015 7:55 p.m.

quesobueno123 says... #26

JexInfinite Here is the list he got second at states with:

Deck!!

April 26, 2015 8:02 p.m.

sirbar says... #27

What does everyone think about Atarka's Command in rug delver?

April 27, 2015 12:03 a.m.

Ryotenchi says... #28

They need to print a better Magma Jet.. Maybe 2 damage scry 1..

Would that be too good?

April 27, 2015 12:27 a.m.

Julius_Mufasa says... #29

That, would be strictly worse.

April 27, 2015 12:30 a.m.

asasinater13 says... #30

can I live in magic christmas land for Atarka's Command for a moment (specifically to rug delver)

3 lands open, none of them blue, pass turn. opponent thinks you've got no counterspells, plays something like an important combo piece.Atarka's Command, bolt them and put an island into play. Mana Leak. make your opponent cry.

seriously though I know very little about the deck so I can't offer much advice for it.

April 27, 2015 12:30 a.m.

asasinater13 says... #31

what of a 2 damage scry 1 for just R? modern playable?

April 27, 2015 12:30 a.m.

Scorprix says... #32

No.

April 27, 2015 12:32 a.m.

sirbar says... #33

I'm not saying use it to play a land, I'm just talking about pushing through some damage and maybe blocking some lingering souls tokens with your goyf.

April 27, 2015 12:37 a.m.

Ryotenchi says... #34

Well 2 cmc scry 2 with 2 to the dome still isnt viable... :(

Prob is there is nothing to draw me more burn cards.. and Im sure everyone would be opposed to it drawing more..

April 27, 2015 12:38 a.m.

Nef says... #35

If you can get green mana easily it's basically a more versatile Skullcrack

April 27, 2015 12:39 a.m.

asasinater13 says... #36

I know, playing the card for the land ability is silly. I just thought of that happening and how tilted I would get if it was against me and had to share.

I would assume a burn that buffs your team is useful in a deck that wants to get out some creatures (I'll assume the list runs delve, goyf, maybe young pyromancer?) and wants to kill relatively quickly. being able to get blocks on lingering souls is awesome too (pyromancer tokens get beneficial blocks on the tokens? awesome).

and occasionally the "can't gain life" may be relevant. rarely, and again, not why you would play the card.

April 27, 2015 12:41 a.m.

sirbar says... #37

Nef that's why its in rug delver. I've played with it a little and I have been liking it.

April 27, 2015 12:41 a.m.

Nef says... #38

It probably deserves a place.

April 27, 2015 12:42 a.m.

Ryotenchi says... #39

The only time I would want to play the land ability.. is turn 2 with a lightning bolt to cast with it.. maybe a swiftspear..

April 27, 2015 12:48 a.m.

Yeah, unless they're definitely not running lifegain it's just used as a functional Skullcrack

April 27, 2015 12:50 a.m.

sirbar says... #41

Ive found that its a bolt and 2/3 during combat.

April 27, 2015 12:51 a.m.

Scorprix says... #42

I think it's good.

April 27, 2015 12:58 a.m.

Ryotenchi says... #43

Im having troubles with my burn against my hatebears. :( If it cant handle a tier 2.5 deck, hows it to deal with a tier 1?

Maybe I cant get away with so many Pillar of Flame..

April 27, 2015 1:18 a.m.

Ryotenchi says... #44

Now maybe its worth its while.. :3 Naya Splash . I like it..

April 27, 2015 2:41 a.m.

Femme_Fatale says... #45

Burn should run Anger of the Gods in the side if you are having creature troubles. Pyroclasm, Slagstorm and Volcanic Fallout are all alternative options.

April 27, 2015 3:05 a.m.

Ryotenchi says... #46

I really really really really want Anger of the Gods Femme_Fatale, Think I can get away with it? o.o

April 27, 2015 3:29 a.m.

bijschjdbcd says... #47

No, That seems horrible.

Decks have bad matchups, the chances you play hatebears at some modern tourney is very small.

As for Command in Delver it seems fine, Specifically against Abzan it makes your Delvers not die to a Lingering Souls and your goyfs eat your opponents goyfs.

April 27, 2015 3:48 a.m.

kengiczar says... #48

Buying back Tarmogoyf with Ojutai's Command is just disgusting. As soon as this catches on, at least at my shop, might lose out to . I mean yeah, red has bolts but white has all the time in the world to not give a damn about it's life total and path.

Stupid twin has them both..and 4 snaps...sigh.

So I want to make a deck that uses Summoning Trap against Twin. So first I need to know, what are some creatures that Twin would actually stop to counter versus just Remand? I was thinking a T1 Pithing Needle followed by T2 Phyrexian Revoker with several Eldrazi in the deck for a suprise Summoning Trap into Emrakul, the Aeons Torn since he can't be hit with Path to Exile and if he comes out on my turn 2 they are screwed.

Also I'm considering running 4x Archive Trap in the sidebaord because screw their fetches!

April 27, 2015 4:31 a.m.

bijschjdbcd says... #49

Remand does counter the spell and will work with Trap.

Without mill being a primary wincon I wouldn't bother.

April 27, 2015 5:19 a.m.

Ryotenchi says... #50

Isnt a tourney thing... I wouldnt run those for tourney... like I could ever travel to get to one..

I cant even go to vegas for MMA2015... and I live in the same state.. :'(

April 27, 2015 5:23 a.m.

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