Interesting changes you made there - follows the flow of current torrents in standard. Would you still consider this Recruiter for Collected-less version on Messengers?

Randsome, thanks for bringing this to my attention. I have now updated Budget Rite Elves adding Duskwatch Recruiter  ^Flip.

Duskwatch is good in the budget version using Sylvan Messenger instead of Collected Company because he can find Messenger. Is he as good in the budget version as this version, no because the budget version can't really take advantage of playing the game at instant speed because it's not using Collected Company and Westvale Abbey  ^Flip. Duskwatch is still excellent with Cryptolith Rite which the budget version is using.

Both Gnarlroot Trapper and Beastcaller Savant are better in the budget version than this version because they both can be used to cast Messenger. Still cutting them in favor of Duskwatch because he has more impact, but I could see it being fine leaving 4x of one of them in place of Duskwatch and 2x Forest.

Hmm not really sure about taking out the mana elves. Yes I know with the Cryptolith Rite you can get the mana from your other elves but doing that decreases the elves for Shaman of the Pack. Another thing is that with Nissa, Voice of Zendikar you could always neg 2 for +1/+1 on the elves. Also I don'y see why you wouldn't mind sacing them later on for Westvale Abbey  ^Flip if they have no use later in the game. Also since Beastcaller Savant has haste it allows you tap it right away which can be very useful when you have 3mana and two 2mana cost cards in hand. Lastly since it has haste you can still swing with it if need be (Nissa can always make it +1+1)

I personally dont like the Duskwatch Recruiter  ^Flip since I feel it can be somewhat hard to flip and isn't an elf so Shaman of the Pack cant deal that extra bit of damage.

Moomoomooo, you made some good points about the mana Elves. I'm sorry to see them go for now. Have you played this deck vs both Humans and Bant Company? The mana Elves are just bad in those matchups. I was constantly sideboarding them out. They are the two most played decks right now so it just makes sense to cut the cards that are under performing vs them for cards that help in the matchups. If and when Standard meta shifts and changes then the mana Elves can be revisited.

If you are having reservations about not using more mana Elves just move Ultimate Price back to the sideboard for 4x of one of them. I currently like having Price main deck for game 1 vs both Humans and Bant Company, especially Humans.

You are right both Trapper and Savant are fine sac fodder for Abbey if you draw an Abbey. Drawing a bunch of Trappers and Savants and not drawing an Abbey is not good. Using both Trapper and Savant really requires you to draw either an Abbey or a Shaman without them the mana dorks are not good enough. Finding either Trapper or Savant or both from a Company is not good either. Too many times this would happen when using them. Getting a turn 3 Company using Gilder and then finding only mana Elves from that Company, not good.

Cutting the mana Elves does reduce the amount of Elves in this deck as well as damage Shaman can do, but some sacrifices need to be made to use better cards. I don't feel that the amount of damage that Shaman can do is reduced enough to warrant using them. All the other 2 drop Elves this deck is using have much better impact in a game.

I don't think Nissa, Voice of Zendikar is good right now either. She is still in the sideboard because she is good in Control matchups if one comes up. Other than putting counters on Advocate, Shaman, Quagmire or Ormendahl she just doesn't make Elves big enough to make an impact. What is a 2/2 Trapper or Savant going to do, really?

This deck is not using Duskwatch because I want to flip him. His flip side is a nice bonus, but his Human side is the reason he's being used. Using a small number other creatures that aren't Elves is fine if they have great interaction with Company which Duskwatch does. Don't knock Duskwatch down so fast, test him out and I think you will be very surprised at how well he strengthens the many strategies in this deck.

Duskwatch Recruiter  ^Flip is interesting. My first playtest of your deck went Turn 2 Recruiter, Turn 3, use his ability, he flips, Turn 4 play Sylvan Advocate, Dwynen's Elite, and Cryptolith Rite, Recruiter flips back, Turn 5, Elvish Visionary, draw Westvale Abbey  ^Flip, Recruiter ability gets another Elvish Visionary, tap two creatures to play it. Turn 6 Ormendahl, Profane Prince and a 4/5 Sylvan Advocate attacking is not bad at all. I'm sure they were waiting to Languish until I had a few more creatures out...

As I mentioned before, I like Might of the Masses. It works to sneak damage in or as removal of a bigger blocker. I'd like to have one more win con in this deck. In combination with Ultimate Price on the turn before Ormendahl perhaps?

As I keep commenting, it only seems fair that I let you point out all the flaws in Elvish Flameshadows, my Jund version, which I'm playing regularly and is always a work in progress. Don't feel obligated though.

CloudThumper, those are very exciting lines of play and perfectly illustrates the power of Duskwatch Recruiter  ^Flip with Elves and Rite, thanks.

Might of the Masses is a good card, but only in a very good board state position with a lot of Elves on the battlefield. I can see scenarios where it could be a huge blowout/ game winning play targeting an Elf that isn't blocked and others where it's a dead card, such as drawing one after a board wipe or after sacing Elves to Abbey. It also has the possibility of getting you 2 for 1 if the Elf you target with it gets killed in response. It's these situations where it can be a possible dead card that make me hesitant to use it.

Channel Fireball, more importantly LSV, is playing a B/G Aristocrats deck at Pro Tour SOI. His deck is showcasing the power of Cryptolith Rite and Westvale Abbey  ^Flip! Not just with Elves, but with other black and green creatures. The insane tech he is using is Zulaport Cutthroat and Nantuko Husk. Cutthroat with Westvale Abbey  ^Flip is brilliant draining your opponent for 5 damage as you activate Abbey is just great. Not to mention that he is also using Duskwatch Recruiter  ^Flip.

LSV is currently 8-0 at the Pro Tour and was featured in 2 rounds back-to-back, round 7 and 8. His deck can be extremely explosive!

Round 7 Here. His entire match is the first 15 minutes, haha.

Round 8 Here. His match is the first 30 minutes. Duskwatch makes an appearance with Rite in game 2.

With how good Cutthroat is turning out to be with the Rite and Abbey strategy I'm going to try to incorporate him into this deck. I can't wait to see a full decklist and/or a deck tech tomorrow on LSV's deck.

I will now check out your deck. How has a Jund manabase been working for you?

Excellent! My first Rally Elves deck had Zulaport Cutthroat as a major player too, with Rally the Ancestors and Nantuko Husk. Foul-Tongue Shriek was useful there, adding damage and life gain with sacrifice as necessary. That isn't going to work with Westvale Abbey  ^Flip. Looking forward to see how LSV does. I better order another Abbey...

The Jund mana is mostly fine, but Flameshadow Conjuring needs more red mana on a regular basis, so that's a unique requirement. It is fun deck, and meant to be a surprise in a Meta that is all over the place with very good and creative players. Consistency not being my highest priority. Gotta go to FNM now...

I guess in the format I play i'm currently fine since I dont really play all the much standard currently so I guess since you are able to play a lot of standard while I get to play it 3-4 times a month. Also if I do end up playing standard I typically vs someone who doesnt have all the cards for the deck and/or just dont have good standard decks.

Once I get to play some standard more frequently I can see why you would make the changes that you did.

Also ive been trying to get my damn hands on Collected Company lol. I did trade a Westvale Abbey  ^Flip for it one which is amazing since Abbey went down in cost by half.

Btw just saw this todayhttp://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/eerie-abzan-elves/Maybe give it a run???