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Legacy
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Nixin72, Someone actually already suggested Firecraft before I cleared out the comments. Basically, in a burn deck, 4 damage for 3 mana (even uncounterable) is not impressive. For a 3cmc card to be played in burn, it has to be a real game changer, like Sulfuric Vortex. Vortex prevents lifegain, but most importantly is a repeatable damage source that doesn't target.
Besides, who cares if 1 of my bolts gets countered? I run 16 bolts in the deck. Besides, like aeonstoremyliver said, most counters in Legacy are easily played around.
August 9, 2015 1:33 a.m. Edited.
I know it's not a lot of damage for 3 mana, I just don't know enough about legacy to know wether or not it's a good card in the deck. But I'm slowly building up legacy burn, so I was curious. I just don't know the format
August 9, 2015 9:42 a.m.
Nixin72, Yeah it's not too good. Get some practice in against some decks that run Force of Will, Counterspell, Spell Pierce, or Spell Snare and maybe practice against miracles. You can either play around their counters or you can ignore their counters with the amount of redundancy in your deck.
Aside from that, there's plenty of decks in the format that don't run blue, and Firecraft is even worse against those decks.
August 9, 2015 1:59 p.m. Edited.
DX5, It's a guaranteed 0 damage against High tide and the burn mirror. Merfolk and omni-tell may run a few nonbasics but they run very few to justify keeping the card in your deck after game 1 (although omni-tell is going U/R now so that may change). Depending on build, Miracles may only play or fetch into basics once they see you're playing burn.
Plus, I switch out prices in casual games, games where the opponent may not be running a tier legacy deck, or any land but basics. This tones down the deck for people who aren't trying to play competitive legacy. At most, these people may just be running a few guildgates here and there lol.
August 10, 2015 2:02 p.m. Edited.
Somnambulist says... #7
Since you seem to have burn more or less figured out, I wanted to ask your opinion on Vexing Devil.
August 10, 2015 9:41 p.m.
Somnambulist, Devil is also a bad card for the same reason Browbeat is bad. It's only as good as it's worst mode is since the opponent gets to pick, which in the right scenario means it's useless.
The absolute best case scenario is that it gets sac'd for 4 on turn 1 and most good players won't let you do that when they figure out you're playing burn unless they don't have chump blockers or removal in hand. The worst case scenario is when your opponent is at 2-4 life and you have an empty hand, and you're also facing down a tarmogoyf. Devil would be a very bad card to topdeck here.
August 10, 2015 9:48 p.m.
RazortoothMtg says... #9
My first deck was burn, first tournament deck was burn, first EDH deck was burn (that was a sad deck), etc. etc., but I know nothing about legacy. It looks good though. +1 from me. And can you tell me how to make Custom Categories on the listing? It's really helpful to understanding the deck and all, and I don't know how.
August 12, 2015 12:24 a.m.
RazortoothMtg, haha, thanks man. If you want to learn the format, just build a mono red deck and jump in some events. There's different choices and ratios of cards to use when it comes to building a deck, and mine is tuned for my playstyle and some meta choices as well (although most of the meta tuning comes in the sideboard).
As for custom categories, you put hashtags after each card you enter to categorize. It took me a while to figure this one out too.
August 12, 2015 12:40 a.m. Edited.
aeonstoremyliver says... #11
On the deckbuilder page, you also have to select 'custom categories,' in the same area as 'prototype,' and so forth.
August 12, 2015 11:24 a.m.
Aeidon, I like the art and aesthetic of those mountains. I'm trying to choose between Zendikar mountains, snow mountains, and foil Champions of Kamigawa mountains, and I felt like going for the Snow mountains. There's no real purpose aside from decoration.
Plus, it might distract some people in a game, such as yourself lol.
August 14, 2015 11:55 p.m.
August 15, 2015 11:11 p.m.
Frydryk213 says... #17
Exquisite Firecraft would be a great sideboard card in the control match ups, I would take it over Grim, but that's just me
August 29, 2015 5:04 p.m.
Frydryk213 this aint a standard deck buddy, no need for bad suggestions.
I don't even bring Grim in for control anyway, I bring it in vs the grindy midrange creature decks and the mirror match.
August 31, 2015 1:45 a.m.
New mulligan doesn't change your opinion on Thunderous Wrath?
August 31, 2015 10:52 p.m.
Thunderous Wrath is a bad card unless you have library manipulation. Any miracle card is.
August 31, 2015 11:32 p.m.
EverythingIsK says... #21
Then stick copies of Magma Jet in and get Thunderous Wrath in. Scry rule or not, burn is almost always in topdeck mode.
September 2, 2015 1:01 a.m.
EverythingIsK, why would I add in a mediocre card that I specifically only use for casual play with this deck just to make a bad card sometimes decent? What the hell would I even remove to justify supporting not one but 2 subpar cards? More importantly, why's everyone so bent on trying to make Thunderous Wrath work? We don't run Brainstorm or Sensei's Divining Top like Miracles does. We don't need to have further discussion on Thunderous Wrath because we already know it's not good.
September 2, 2015 7:36 p.m. Edited.
Lhurgyof, so I can run Destructive Revelry in my sideboard for enchantment removal. Currently I'm leaning towards not running it though.
September 4, 2015 2:23 p.m.
I don't think it'd be worth it currently.
Is Pyromancer's Swath viable in Legacy? I mostly played janky decks when I played.
aeonstoremyliver says... #1
Nixin72 I don't think Exquisite Firecraft is good enough for Legacy. A well timed Price of Progress and/or Fireblast works wonders. Even Flame Rift is better.
The only true Draw-Go Control deck in the format is Miracles. Otherwise, it's a Tempo game. Learning to play around Force of Will, Daze, and Misdirection is key to playing an Aggro strategy like Burn/RDW. The conditional uncounterable of Exquisite Firecraft, which granted can easily be met, is nullified simply by being too much mana for the ability, when there are other cards that do the same amount of damage for less mana.
August 3, 2015 8:10 p.m.