God's of journey into nyx (speculation)

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Posted on Feb. 1, 2014, 10:07 p.m. by Rhinowarrior

Alright so I was just wondering what you all thought about how the gods are going to turn out for journey into nyx! Personally I was slightly disappointed with all the gods of the recent set except for [xenagos, God of revels]]. So what do you think their toughness, power, mana cost and abilities will be. Here's some of my thoughts.

Keranos, God of storms 3(UR)

6/4

Indestructible

Whenever a you cast a sorcery or instant, copy that spell. You may choose New copies for that target.

Kruphix, God of horizons

5/5

Indestructible

Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control' put two +1/+1 counters on that creature.

Iroas, God of victory

5/7 (opposite of mogis?)

Indestructible

Whenever you play a spell targeting a creature that you control, that creature gets +2/+2 until end of turn.

What do you guys think?

Rhinowarrior says... #1

*karametra edh deck. This autocorrect is painful.

February 2, 2014 9:43 a.m.

ThatBlueMage says... #2

BoTG isn't even released yet. I'll assume that spoilers will start this time 3-4 months from now.

February 2, 2014 9:56 a.m.

JWiley129 says... #3

Cobthecobbler - I would love to see your source for that info because I'm with Rhinowarrior. Each plane is very distinct from one another and knowledge of other planes is limited primarily to Planeswalkers. It'd be akin to someone coming up to me and talking about Middle-Earth as though it were a real place. I'd look at them funny and walk away.

That said, Maro has said that the minor gods are supposed to "play nice" with the guilds considering we just left RTR block. Having them be exact copies would be fun, i.e. Kruphix giving all your creatures Evolve, Pharika giving them Scavenge, etc.

Back on topic, I think that Keranos is going to have some sort of instant/sorcery copy effect and Athreos is a graveyard recursion card. The others are a bit harder to figure out.

February 2, 2014 9:59 a.m.

Rhinowarrior says... #4

That's the thing ThatBlueMage journey into nyx is released in 3 months!!!

Everything JWiley129 just said i agree with. Well done sir.

February 2, 2014 10:16 a.m.

JWiley129 says... #5

I just realized I had a typo, I meant "Having them be exact copies wouldn't be fun." But looking at the minor gods already spoiled they do play relatively nice. Xenagos, God of Revels and Mogis, God of Slaughter work the best with their Ravnican guild. But Karametra, God of Harvests and Ephara, God of the Polis I think don't work as well since Selesnya is more about tokens and Azorius doesn't have that many flash creatures to abuse Ephara's trigger with.

February 2, 2014 10:53 a.m.

Rhinowarrior says... #6

Agreed. Karametra is a beast for naya though. And ephara the same for bant.

February 2, 2014 10:58 a.m.

Ultimaodin says... #7

Wasn't Kruphix mentioned to be God of Time or something similar. (for the life of me I don't remember the exact word)

Anyway, looking at Kruphix we have Courser of Kruphix , that lets you play land from the top of your deck; Prophet of Kruphix , which untaps land and lets you flash in creatures - working well with Inspiration and evolve (playing more creatures means more evolve triggers). Then there is Kiora, the Crashing Wave who leans towards a control shell and Kiora's Follower who again synergises with Inspiration.

Personally I think Kruphix will have a Tap ability like Phenax does. I'd love him to have an ability like: "Creatures you control have ':tap:, Put a counter on target permanent for each type of counter on that permanent'" but then Kiora would be too broken. Since I live in Magical Yule land (because screw Christmas):


Kruphix, God of Time

3UB ~(I can't see him being cheap)~

Enchantment Creature - God

Indestructible

As long as your devotion to green and blue is less than seven, Kruphix isn't a creature.

Creatures you control have ":tap:, put a counter on target permanent for each type of counter on that permanent."

5/8

February 3, 2014 10:22 p.m.

@Ultimaodin Turning your whole team into a Vorel of the Hull Clade that can double the loyalty of planewalkers for free? I don't think I need to explain how incredibly broken that would be at 5 mana.

On a side note, I suspect Keranos will have something to do with Scrying, given that he is associated with prophecy and delivering visions of the future with his lightning storms.

February 3, 2014 11:11 p.m.

Ultimaodin says... #9

@BlastercoolWeird - Reread bro, it doesn't double. Only adds one counter of a given type. Also it should be 4UG... I stuffed up double on the cost. :/

February 3, 2014 11:19 p.m.

How about somethig like:

Keranos, God of Storms 2UR

Devotion clause (7)

Creatures you control have "Whenever this creature deals combat damage to an aponent, scry X, where X is the damage it dealt"

or

Whenever you deal combat damage to an opponent, scry X, where X is the amount of damage dealt to him/her.

5/4

February 4, 2014 12:35 a.m.

I also would LOVE to see something like this on Pharika:

Pharika, God of Potions 3BG

Devotion clause (7)

If Pharika isnt a creature, creatures your opponent control have -1/-1 and cant activate their abilities.

If Pharika is a creature, other creatures you control get +1/+1

7/6

February 4, 2014 12:50 a.m.

Or maybe even:

Whenever a creature you control dies, target player loses life equal to the creature's power, or you gan life equal to the creature's toughness.

This way, Pharika has synergy with both Nylea (pumps for better drain) and Erebos (they cant gain life, you get life to spend on more cards)

February 4, 2014 1:07 a.m.

Gitaxias86 says... #13

Most excited for keranos! Hoping he looks something like this:

Keranos, God of Epiphany 2URLegendary Enchantment Creature-GodIndestructibleIf your devotion to blue and red is less than 7, Keranos isn't a creature.Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, you may draw a card.5/5

February 4, 2014 2:51 a.m.

Gitaxias86 says... #14

Most excited for keranos! Hoping he looks something like this:

Keranos, God of Epiphany 2UR

Legendary Enchantment Creature-God

Indestructible

If your devotion to blue and red is less than 7, Keranos isn't a creature.

Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, you may draw a card.

5/5

February 4, 2014 2:53 a.m.

Korombos says... #15

As the god of time, I'm pretty hopeful that Kruphix will grant an extra turn somehow.

February 4, 2014 6:15 a.m.

@Ultimaodin Oh I see but that's...still super broken. Being able to just drop Kiora, the Crashing Wave after playing a dude each turn and immediately bring her up to ultimate range and then some? Being able to plus Elspeth, Sun's Champion and then ultimate her next turn just by tapping the tokens she makes? For essentially free?

also flavorfully it doesn't work well because so far Kruphix's various underlings don't seem to have anything to do with counters. So far none of the dual colored gods have had any synergy with their respective RTR guild mechanics.

February 4, 2014 4:28 p.m.

Schuesseled says... #17

Pharika, will likely have an ability to do with rengeneration or reanimation. Considering she is the god of healing.

February 4, 2014 5:12 p.m.

C3willuhz says... #18

@Rhinowarrior i think in journey to nyx, the "gods", will be sorcery or instant cards that make enchantments more OP... in theros they were single color with matching weapons. now theyre multi color meta enforcers, im thinking the next ones will be spells that are cheaper per devotion... im probly totally wrong but thats what im thinking. maybe tutor/wrath/tinker/blah effects that are originally over priced but get cheaper with devotion... idk

February 4, 2014 11:15 p.m.

@C3willuhz I don't see wizards changing up an iconic cycle of mythics 2/3rds of the way through. The Gods are meant to be enchantment creatures, and as someone who is exclusively playing enemy color combinations in their standard decks I would be beyond livid that my mythic gods end up overpriced wraths or tutors.

That being said your idea is totally viable as an unrelated cycle of rares/mythics in Journey, as demonstrated with Marshmist Titan .

February 4, 2014 11:47 p.m.

Ultimaodin says... #20

C3willuhz - I can't see that being the case, they'd have to be similar to the other minor Gods; plus I can imagine Kruphix being a "take an extra turn" sorcery and that would be OP since you could Easily cats him as a time walk. on turn 3 by running Burning-Tree Emissary.

I am a Simic Player and I'd honestly rather we not have a time walk in those colours. It would be way too broken.

BlastercoolWeird - I did say Magical Christmas Land.

What I can actually see Kruphix Being:

Kruphix, God of Time

2UG ~(I can't see him being cheap)~

Enchantment Creature - God

Indestructible

As long as your devotion to green and blue is less than seven, Kruphix isn't a creature.

Creatures you control have ":tap:, reveal the top card of your library, if it's a creature put it into your hand."

3/6


Will help make lands be on the top of deck for Courser of Kruphix and will fuel Prophet of Kruphix while granting card draw without being actual card draw (since simic is going to have a pain of a time vs the new black and white draw stoppers) and will help trigger inspired besides Kiora's follower. Not to mention give Kiora herself more of a meat shield.

February 5, 2014 12:20 a.m.

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