Let's build around Unplayable Commanders; SAMURAI PART TWOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Posted on Jan. 27, 2017, 11:26 p.m. by joecool1299

Does the title of this count as clickbait if I don't even try?

What makes an Unplayable commander?

I'm using EDHREC'S list of Unplayable commander's. They are commander's that have less then three decks on tapped out, you can find the list here.


List of EDHREC unplayed commanders

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How does this work?

I'll randomly select a commander. I'll build the rough skeleton. You send me suggestions for weird cards for it. And we'll cut it down and ship it. Let's put the minds of the internet to the test

TLDR; What's the deck already

Because Samurai and I have such a great history.

Iizuka the Ruthless

So White samurai didnt' do much for me

so logically the best solution is to go to a color with less samurai.

At least his ability is better.

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As always any Suggestions for the deck, feedback, Liking and spreadage of the word is great appreciated!

Here's the previous decks as well as a more in depth home page if you wanna follow my Insanity.


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Eiti3 says... #2

Iizuka the Ruthless + Oathkeeper, Takeno's Daisho + Runed Stalactite + Mountain + Genju of the Spires + Heartstone + Thousand-Year Elixir + Paradox Engine + 4 mana doublers below = Infinite Combo.

And all of these mana doublers will be needed to go infinite: Extraplanar Lens, Gauntlet of Power, Gauntlet of Might, Caged Sun, Mana Flare, and Chaos Moon. Could do a Soulbright Flamekin as well, but I don't know if the math works out.

  • Main Phase 1:
  • Iizuka the Ruthless, Oathkeeper, Takeno's Daisho, Runed Stalactite, an Mountain, Heartstone, Thousand-Year Elixir, and Paradox Engine are all out on board. Genju of the Spires in hand.
    Mountain for (5).
    → Cast Genju of the Spires on the Mountain. Down to (4).
    → In response to casting Genju of the Spires, TRIGGERED abilities layer with timestamps. Paradox Engine being the only one. Paradox Engine untaps all nonland permanents.
    Genju of the Spires resolves.
    → Activate Genju of the Spires's ability animating the enchanted Mountain. Down to (2).
    → Activate Thousand-Year Elixir's ability, the enchanted, animated Mountain spirit. Down to (1).
    the enchanted, animated Mountain spirit for (5). End up with (6).
    → Attach Oathkeeper, Takeno's Daisho and Runed Stalactite to the enchanted, animated Mountain spirit. Down to (2).
    → Sacrifice the enchanted, well-armed, animated Mountain changeling to Iizuka the Ruthless. Down to (0).
    → In in response to the enchanted, well-armed, animated Mountain changeling dying, TRIGGERED abilities layer with timestamps. Oathkeeper, Takeno's Daisho first, then Genju of the Spires. Genju of the Spires resolves first, returning to hand. Then Oathkeeper, Takeno's Daisho resolves returning the precious Mountain back to play .
    Iizuka the Ruthless's activated ability then resolves with all Samurai gaining double strike until end of turn.
    → Repeat.

    Add additional mana doublers to get infinite mana. Add a Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle with 5 other Mountains in play to insta-win. Temple Bell to deck yourself or opponents.

    EDIT: Felt like something was fishy. Figured out that Oathkeeper, Takeno's Daisho checks if it is a Samurai in the graveyard, not when it dies. I'm used to Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker. Apologies. And even a Ashes of the Fallen doesn't fix this. (Oathkeepers second ability checks whether the cards creature type is Samurai, not whether the creature was a Samurai when it left the battlefield.)

    EDIT 2: I did all the work and math for nothing so I'm not going to do it again, but I imagine you could replace Genju of the Spires, Runed Stalactite and the Mountain in the combo with Soulbright Flamekin, Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, and Ashes of the Fallen to make it work. THAT WOULD BE EPIC.

    January 28, 2017 12:53 a.m. Edited.

    bushido_man96 says... #3

    That's some crazy Magic going on there.

    February 1, 2017 2:36 p.m.

    joecool1299 says... #4

    Sorry for the long time before reply Eiti3.

    I actually built a deck around Oathkeeper and ashes of the fallen. Instead it was in white instead of red. I wrote a primer on it here.

    That's a pretty crazy amount of jank there. I think I have to put that in there. Oathkeeper, Takeno's Daisho, Ashes of the Fallen, Ashnod's Altar, Mana Echoes and any two creatures that share a creature type makes infinite colorless mana. I don't think I'll go full ham on Infinite combos but he certainly could lend himself there.

    February 10, 2017 10:45 p.m.

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