Help Refine Esper Control EDH deck

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Posted on March 25, 2019, 9:59 a.m. by Reinor

The goal of the deck, Stop Hitting Yourself, is to take control of all of my opponents creatures by tapping and then untappping my commander. This can be done several times a turn using untap effects and artifacts. Additionally, by giving the creatures that are taken indestructible, when the commander is untapped, those creatures will stay in play under my control.

I need help with the mana base (do i have enough mana). I also want to know if Unwinding Clock , Jandor's Saddlebags , Prison Term and Darksteel Forge fit in this deck.

Joe_Ken_ says... #2

35 lands with roughly 6 mana rocks is a good start for a mana base. But a card I would recommend is Smothering Tithe since it can result in a lot of extra mana via treasure tokens if no one has enchantment removal right away. I would say Darksteel Forge and Unwinding Clock , Jandor's Saddlebags are fine for the deck since they enable Puppet Strings to take cards every turn. Lastly I would maybe see about adding a board wipe or two in case your opponent get out of hand. Can’t really ever go wrong with a Cyclonic Rift

March 25, 2019 11:41 a.m.

Joe_Ken_ says... #3

Maybe with Darksteel Forge in the deck you could use Memnarch to make the creatures you steal into artifacts or just steal your opponents artifacts from them. With this you may also want Mycosynth Lattice

March 25, 2019 11:47 a.m.

Reinor says... #4

March 25, 2019 12:40 p.m.

Joe_Ken_ says... #5

You can swap Revoke Existence for Cyclonic Rift Divination probably isn’t too necessary since you have cards that offer better draw value. I think with your commander and how it’s ability works you may not need Control Magic I also think Oblivion Ring is something that isn’t all too necessary when your main goal is to steal your opponents stuff.

March 25, 2019 1:46 p.m.

Joe_Ken_ says... #6

Oh also you may want to add the artifact lands since they will also untap with unwinding clock. Ancient Den , Seat of the Synod , and Vault of Whispers

March 25, 2019 1:57 p.m.

DwaginFodder says... #7

March 25, 2019 2:01 p.m.


March 25, 2019 2:53 p.m.

DerektheRed says... #9

I know your main strategy is using your commander, but since you're using Control Magic and are open to using Memnarch... You might consider Willbreaker , Beguiler of Wills , and Charisma (this last one works especially well with Norritt + indestructible).

March 25, 2019 10:46 p.m.

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