Ok, for now I'm only using this for Casual gameplay but it's hopefully going to go to a tournament eventually :). The idea behind this deck is to get a crap load of mana on the battlefield asap, and thus big creatures out quite fast too. I added some cards to stop black decks from...Doomblade, Rise from the Grave, win. :P. I have play tested it a few times and it seems to be a very good deck that will do well, so wish me luck guys :) (and playing Leatherback Baloth on turn 2 is rather nice :D) And I couldn't find any Asceticisms in stock when I was shopping online so I just bought the foil versions for 4 bucks each...but it's so crucial I decided I had to. As for garruk...I'm not completely convinced he belongs in here but it works, the 2 mana ability is nice, a 3/3 is always nice, and his trample +3/+3 ability is great to finish a game so meh. :)
It wouldn't have let me make this a newb deck if I hadn't put those all in mainboard but some of the ones I said I have 4 of I need a few more of but that's about it, anyway any suggestions guys? Other big creatures to replace my big creatures? Some small creatures I need? I dunno....this is why I put it here. I'm thinking about putting in some Rampaging Baloths .
November 21, 2010 10:36 p.m.
Yeah, I've decided I definitely need a few smaller creatures in here, Wildheart Invoker 's Stampeding Rhino 's and Stomper Cub 's are all options....which of those to put in, what to take out, or whether to put something else completely in are all questions....please comment...I need all the advice I can get....
November 21, 2010 10:59 p.m.
And yes, I realize I need some sorcery/instants as well...I'm in desperate need of help here :P.
November 21, 2010 11:04 p.m.
Mm I have a deck just like this but I think you for sure need mana creatures. I run 4x Llanowar Elf and 4x Birds of Paradise. 4x cultivate and 2x harrow. Ascetism is a real winner in a deck like this, and i'd also say take out two liege of tangle, all the slagwurms, and probably the hydras, those things get hated on so much.
You should for sure grab some Gaea's Revenge, easy 8 damage with the tanglewurm out, and it can't be countered! Basically this is how my green deck plays
Turn 1: forest, birds of paradise Turn 2: forest, cultivate Turn 3: forest, bellowing tanglewurm/acidic slime/ascetism Turn 4: forest, terra stomper Turn 5: Gaea's Revenge Turn 6: Liege of the Tangle
Obviously you don't need to do just that but it works really well for me and if you wanna hit with big creatures you need to pull them out really fast.
If you want to play in tournaments then remove Recross The Paths, that card takes you out of standard.
Nice start though.
November 21, 2010 11:13 p.m.
Hey noah, thank you so much. I owe you one. I was actually looking at one of you're decks and I liked it but it was elf based so I couldn't really use it. I think with the changes I made this deck has a good amount of potential now, I can always make small changes as I see fit but this deck looks like it will work wonders so I owe you one. I guess I know who to talk to as I make changes to this deck hehe and as soon as I get some money I'll probably buy the cards I'm missing for this and make a great deck that I can't wait to use :). Thank's again man, keep in touch.
November 21, 2010 11:31 p.m.
Yeah for sure, anytime. I started playing not that long ago but I really dig into deck concepts and I wanted to build a huge ramp green and it looks a bit like this one. But honestly it's not the most solid deck for tournament play so before you buy anything playtest a lot and get as many comments as possible.
This sie took my black deck (Count Sacula) from crap to awesome with comments. I have yet to really lose with it and i'm preparing to attend my first tournaments with it.
November 21, 2010 11:34 p.m.
Nice man, and yeah that's my one concern about playing tourney's, I get the feeling green decks will not work out amazingly when used without another color (red being a great choice). I am of course hoping to get some more comments, and yeah I definitely need to play test a lot...I might as well see how it does against my current green deck xD. And hey, good luck with attending your first tournaments man :). Tell me how it goes, Asceticism is definitely a CRUCIAL card in this deck though, I'm glad you showed it to me. If I try to go anywhere with this deck I'll definitely need that card on the field :P.
November 21, 2010 11:45 p.m.
So I decided I think I might take out the 4 Terra Stomper s and put in 4 Rampaging Baloths instead. I'll keep the stompers on the sideboard for when I fight blue decks but in my opinion the baloth's have far more potential in this deck than the stompers (unless I'm fighting a counter deck). This way depending on the deck I'm fighting I can just switch out 4 creatures for 4 creatures...ya know? Anyway I'm gunna hit the sack now, it's midnight and I have school tomorr-...today :P.
November 22, 2010 12:08 a.m.
in standard, don't ever run more than 60 cards.
November 22, 2010 12:33 a.m.
Alright, well I'm glad I didn't go to bed quite yet, I was worried about those extra 6 cards...easy solution...take out 4 and 2 mana. As for explore...I'll replace the Harrows with that I guess but I prefer the cultivate so I think I'll cut my growth spasms down to 2 so that I can get four explores (I do enjoy the draw a card and the additional land works really well beginning game or mid game in combo with cultivate). As for what the 4 cards (6 counting mana) I take out...beastmaster, genesis wave, 1 gaea's revenge, 1 rampaging baloths? That sound good? I'll do that for now but if you disagree just tell me.
November 22, 2010 12:47 a.m.
Oh and i like the summoning trap, I almost forgot to add that to the sideboard.
November 22, 2010 12:51 a.m.
Thanks man, hopefully I'll hear more from you in the future, like I said, all comments are welcome and budget isn't a huge deal cuz I'll get the money eventually :). I'll probably be back on to check for comments tomorrow, thanks again guys, gunna go to bed now. :D
November 22, 2010 12:56 a.m.
no problem man, happy to help out a fellow magic player.
November 22, 2010 1 a.m.
Nice deck idea you may want some smaller big creatures like Leatherback Baloth . Also it may not be a bad idea to toss in Fauna Shaman so that if you run into a birds or elf late game that you don't need you can tutor up a big boy.
November 22, 2010 1:30 a.m.
Thanks matts, I have a fauna shaman with me right now and I was debating whether I should or not because I don't want to be losing big creatures for other big creatures but I forgot about the birds and elves, alright I'll toss in 1, I might get 3 more at some point but those bad boys are like 10 bucks each and I'd be going from a 60-70$ purchase today to a 90-100$ one. I'll think on it though. Thank you guys for the comments, keep em coming. I play tested this a few times and it seems to work well...I'm concerned that I might get too many asceticisms in a hand/game but I worry about taking some out because I really need to draw at least one...I don't worry about people destroying them because I can always sideboard some for decks that destroy enchantments. Thanks again guys :).
November 22, 2010 7:26 a.m.
*Took out an asceticism and put in the fauna shaman...there we go, should work better now :).
November 22, 2010 7:28 a.m.
November 22, 2010 5:57 p.m.
In the end I was only able to find two summoning traps but that's fine, no biggy :).
November 22, 2010 6:17 p.m.
Hey man. Decent green deck but in my experience 20 land is just too few, especially in a deck running so many fatties.
I would consider upping the lands to about 23 to 24, even with the ramp spells. Your Rampaging Baloths , Scute Mob , and Liege of the Tangle all benefit greatly from land drops so even if you top a land late game it's not a bad thing in a deck like this one.
Hope I helped. Thanks for your comment.
November 22, 2010 8:07 p.m.
After play testing it I would drop only 2 Elves for 2 Forests, Great deck.
November 22, 2010 8:17 p.m.
Hey man, sounds good thanks :). You're right, cuz of the birds of paradise I'll still pretty much have 6 elves in theory so taken it from 8 to 6 and getting two more land sounds good. I'll do that :). And no problem, i really like you're white deck, I wanted to play test it yesterday but either the site or my internet was being weird and I couldn't.
November 23, 2010 6:49 a.m.
I feel like I should have 4 Gravity Well s in my sideboard but I forgot about those when I ordered my cards...ugh...well I have one on me... :( flyers can probably mess this deck up pretty bad :/...
November 23, 2010 4:43 p.m.
Not if you run them over fast enough they shouldn't. The idea with your deck is to beat them before they can do a whole lot of anything.
You have to remember that you play tested your standard against my Vintage deck... If you were to easily win then it means mine sucks, lol. To get a good feel play test yours against other standard decks and see how it matches up.
November 23, 2010 10:54 p.m.
True true, I kind of forget I'm running a standard deck sometimes :P. I've been play testing it a lot and it seems to do really good. The best thing in the world is a bellowing tanglewurm+liege of the tangle :P. 9 unblockable 8/8s anyone? :P. But yeah, thanks man. And honestly, with my deck, they'll probably need their flyers to block more than anything else I guess so thanks for the insight man. I play tested you're deck again btw and I won, I LOVE you're deck though (and you were at 1-3 mana that game...worst draw for mana EVER and you still almost beat me, I really like you're deck :D).
November 23, 2010 10:59 p.m.
Oh and fyi, if you ever see weird changes with my sideboard and mainboard...I'm just playtesting against decks that I need cards from the sideboard to do. :P
November 24, 2010 10:26 a.m.
Hmmm...platinum angel in a deck that generates mana as fast as this one destroys me...I mean...it's a 4/4 with flying so I can't block it, I have no way to destroy it, and I can't win the game because of it :/...
November 24, 2010 12:35 p.m.
I saw this deck last night and created my version of a liege deck; granted it's completely different from what you made, must the inspiration to try it out comes from you! If you want to check it out, it's deck:defend-the-liege.
I really enjoy your deck, though! It's got speed and power wrapped up in one. I would suggest putting another Omnath, Locus of Mana in there, just in case.
November 24, 2010 5:42 p.m.
Yeah, I need to get another omnath eventually and I'm thinking of some gravity wells or some instants that make my creatures stronger until end of turn for when people let damage through or to kill their blockers, but other than that I think I'm pretty done with this. I can't wait to check your's out, I'm glad to have inspired something :D.
November 24, 2010 5:56 p.m.
Alright, so the fauna shaman isn't as helpful as I thought it would be so I think I'm gunna take that out, I'm thinking about putting in 1-3 Overwhelming Stampede s at some point though...those would work SOOOOO well in this deck...especially if one of my scute mobs is like a 21/21...haha...so yeah, I need some overwhelming stampedes and I need to switch them for stuff, but I'll do that some other time I guess.
November 24, 2010 6:52 p.m.
So I just pitched my liege versus yours, and I got EXACT opposite results - I won all three times! I think it was because we know our decks better than we know eachother's, haha. Still, they were heated matches. Liege didn't stick out much in your deck. You have mainly a green beatdown deck, which is GREAT at what it does. Overwhelming Stampede is good, but if you're going to lean towards an overrun style, go with Beastmaster Ascension . Just my two mana ;) Great deck, already got a +1 from me earlier. I'd love to see what else you have up your (card) sleeves sometime.
November 25, 2010 3:29 p.m.
Yeah, I'm not surprised, knowing you're deck really helps in playing, I'd love to see how our decks do if we were both playing haha. I might toss beastmaster in...I have 1 with me actually, umm, what else...yeah i know the liege doesn't stick out in mine but I needed a catchy name xD. Haha. Thanks for the feedback, I'm gunna post this on you're deck too just to make sure you see it and you should check out my new angel/demon deck I made (WAY too expensive for me to actually own in person right now, but I plan on making it eventually :P)
November 25, 2010 5:20 p.m.
CRAP I forgot the scute mobs in my order....awww hell, I really wanted them in this deck and it's not worth it to just have one :(.
November 26, 2010 7:41 p.m.
Ok well I'm replacing the four scute mobs (since I only have one :/) with 2 explores and 2 terra stompers.