Sucks about the ban. Glad this list doesn't need a huge change.

Can I offer anyone a poem in this trying time?

Paradox Engine has been banned.

And now this list is certainly manned,

With a scientist, crazy,

And a walker, maybe,

Just cast Consult and name Hammerhand.

jk it's still amazing

Budget build links still have pe in the list. Just a heads up

Recent_skepticism

Yeah, you're right. We're slowly getting the peripheral information in order and haven't been able to revise those just yet.

Mostly this page is up to date so far.

I am an advanced noob in MTG- Haven't graduated just yet to mid-tier in my opinion, so please forgive me if this sounds like a stupid question.

Why is Snapcaster Mage not run in a deck with 39 instants and sorceries? Can one of you please explain...I am working on a close copy of this deck and everything within me wants to run him.

bkelly8401 Although a staple in mono U decks, Snappy just doesn't have quite the impact in a 4 colour deck where you have so many high impact cards to choose from. 1U to allow you to play one spell from your graveyard isn't amazing when you have e.g. Yawg Will. There are also commonly played graveyard hate cards that can mess your target up like DRS, Noxious and even Mem's Journey.

Your May be board and main board have over lap, is that intentional?

UmbrasDarkness

Ah no that's my bad. Thanks for the heads up. Fixed.

Not running Nature's Claim? Pretty bold.

Absolutely. I am in love with your guys deck. I have it fully "pimped" out as my primary deck I play in my Meta.

Dr3vvn45ty

Yeah, there are enough pieces of interaction I think it's fine to trim it for other things, and a good chunk of the deck is stack interaction.

Granted, Claim is good. Don't feel obligated to cut it should you feel it's stronger in your meta.

This list is just a metric, and really just a pile of good cards. You can play different good cards if you want.

AlwaysSleepy yea, no worries. I was just kinda surprised to see a green deck NOT running it. Makes sense tho.

So I understand the power of using your dorks as card draw with Tymna the Weaver , but I'm only seeing 4 white cards in the current list (6 if you count Noble Hierarch and Avacyn's Pilgrim ), so why are we still running Tymna the Weaver as our partner instead of Vial Smasher the Fierce . Wouldn't red give us additional interaction with Red Elemental Blast , Pyroblast , By Force , or maybe additional dig with Faithless Looting , Wheel of Fortune , or even Dack Fayden ? All of those seem higher impact than Silence , Smothering Tithe , and Dovin's Veto .

JaceNordark

And Enlightened Tutor .

The real answer is that Tymna the Weaver is an enormous card advantage engine, and the benefits she brings as a commander as a more or less expendable but monstrous value engine very quickly out scale some of the benefits the splash may bring.

So really the reason is this deck wants Tymna herself.

I am always iffy about Yawg's Will in my ST lists. How has it performed for you.

fegamaggot

The card itself is super bonk, so it's worth playing since it can dig out of holes by itself. I think it's better now with LabMan, you can use it to combo out with him. Pretty good overall. The deck just doesn't lean too much on it.

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Hey AlwaysSleepy,

it's been a while since I visited your list and I see that you also added the Consult-Labman package instead of the Engine now.

Somehow I didn't consider Jace, Wielder of Mysteries in my list... I still run Angel's Grace over it. I do see the point in having a second (main) wincon besides Labman though and a more flexible card in general, but the mana cost kinda annoys me. Would you recommend to switch these cards?

ToshiroU

I do recommend the switch just because the Consult plan is super resilient and plays through most board states.

Grace isn't specifically bad though but I think with Consult lines you can trim it.