Regarding Firesong and Sunspeaker...
Commander Deck Help forum
Posted on March 21, 2018, 11 a.m. by BMHKain
Boros' last chance to shine with success...
I know this cEDH deck isn't done yet, but there is some stuff I would love to put in. But first, some guidelines:
Pike, & Galvanoth stay.
I need more stuff, and more enchantments.
No healing, but I would love to have burn that doesn't target, and at least a player to boot.
Is Ajani Steadfast viable here?
What stuff besides burn & heal stuff do you recommend as my Instants & Sorceries?
What other staples in these colors should I use?
I was told to use 35 lands this time. If this commander is the best of all Boros, what objection do you have?
Thanks again, guys, & remember, this is CEDH based, so I can't find any staple list on the web. What is the entire list of staples? Thanks in advance...
(Errrr...)
What I mean by the list of staples is that one list that was taken down not just because of a server error; it was planned. That list was from the commanderedh site. That's what I meant. Ideas where to find that list in another place on the web?
My apologies.
March 21, 2018 12:05 p.m.
Suns_Champion says... #5
Thanks Spirit_Logan :)
BMHKain I want to say up front that I do not play cEDH, so some of my thoughts may be irrelevant or wrong.
I honestly doubt Fire & Sun can make it in cEDH. They're a great general, perhaps the best Boros has ever had, but Boros still doesn't have the draw and ramp power needed to consistently win turns 3, 4, and 5.
They also cost 6 to cast, which is a huge middle finger from wizards to Boros EDH players. Whatever. /end rant. Take opinions with grain of salt.
1) Okay, though Galvanoth can only hit 1/3 of the deck so you might want Sensei's Divining Top.
2) maybe, or maybe not. Kinda depends on what you like. Mark of Asylum and Repercussion are really good though.
3) You seem to have the best ones already... X spells. Some cheaper ones like Breath of Darigaaz, Fiery Confluence, and Flamebreak might help.
4) Probably not. You waste the creature-centric abilities and it's too slow of cEDh if I'm not mistaken.
5) Dawn Charm, Swords to Plowshares, Return to Dust, Samite Ministration, Tithe and Radiate could all be considered.
6) Stoneforge Mystic, Weathered Wayfarer, Generator Servant, Steelshaper's Gift, Reforge the Soul, Arcane Lighthouse, Scavenger Grounds, Inventors' Fair, and Blasphemous Act should be considered.
7) with the curve at 2.55...33 maybe? Not sure, as a normal EDH player I don't go below 36 usually.
Not sure about the staple list... can you explain that further?
Again, not a competitive player by any means. Can't wait to see more brews for this awesome new commander!
here's mine if you haven't checked it out yet: Super Smash Boros | Firesong & Sunspeaker EDH
March 21, 2018 5:44 p.m.
@Suns_Champion: Thanks for the efforts of trying to help despite not being competitive. Frankly, I not that competitive either, but the popularity of this commander is ridonkulous. I just showed your name as the combo you mentioned was all thanks to you. All credit is yours. :)
As for the staple list, apparently the cEDH group either forgot to fix the link, or removed it completely. A reddit post showed this, but was against the original owner's whim, and the reddit topic is closed...
Dammit...
March 22, 2018 4:31 p.m.
Suns_Champion says... #7
BMHKain no problem friend. Happy to help. F & S has been insanely popular... I've gotten 90 upvotes on my deck in two weeks without even having the art!
Also, alas! For I bare bad news! The Spiritualize combo had been debunked! it doesn't work -> Link of debate
Long story short, unless some new evidence appears, the lifegain caused by Spiritualize is a trigger, and F & S only care about spells. It's a weird and unfortunate distinction.
March 22, 2018 7:49 p.m.
@Suns_Champion: Damn. Removing that card from my list then. Samite Ministration probably applies to the same rule... DX
Jackie Chiles: Damn.
What? I like Seinfeld. Xp Anyways, enough derailing this for a mere quote...
Segala says... #2
for the list of staples for edh deck :edhrec.com is a gold mine for anything related to deck building in edh (commanders-->2 Colors-->Boros) and you will see the list of staples.
March 21, 2018 11:19 a.m.