The Conclave's Revenge | GW Midrange
Standard*
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Now with 100% More enchantment creatures. —June 21, 2014
I've made some large adjustments to the build to better fit the metagame and to test out some new cards, namely Eidolon of Blossoms.
Cleaning up comments.
Thank you to everyone for the continued support and comments! I did some testing with a few of the suggestions.
Archangel of Thune really is just good in this format and remains super powerful. And much as you all noted, Nessian Game Warden works better in the sideboard. I swapped them and I feel good aboutthat. Thank you!
I tested with Advent of the Wurm in place of Nessian Game Warden . The results were decent. I like having a creature with trample and I like the instant speed. But not being able to grab it with either Ajani or Garruk was frustrating as I thought it would be. I think I'd rather have Selesnya Charm since it can make anything have trample while also providing more utility.
I need to test with the deck more to find what I can remove to bring in the charm. I think it would help the deck tremendously. I might remove a RAM and then put one of the three left in the side by removing a single Glare of Heresy . That way I have less in the MB in matches where it isn't useful. How does that sound to everyone? :)
May 15, 2014 7:32 p.m.
cogumerlim: Thank you so much! I made a few changes just now based on some additional testing I've done after the real release of JOU. One of these was making your suggestion of swapping Thune and the Game Warden, which I'm in favor of right now. I'll check out your decks!
May 15, 2014 7:35 p.m.
Vergil_Redgrail says... #4
Dear god. Superfriends much? Along a similar vein, I wish they would have made a Deer God.
May 15, 2014 10:03 p.m.
I really love the superfriends aspect of this deck. It's what allows the concept to work honestly.
They should make a deer god.
May 15, 2014 10:31 p.m.
Vergil_Redgrail says... #6
Well, +1 from me anyway. It's nice to see a G/W deck that's not all about tokens. Three people at my tournament, which is usually very small, play Selesnya Token decks, and it irks me so much. Unfortunately for them, I play Rakdos Aggro, and have won every tournament in the last year except for 1 because games two and three he drew a hand of 4 Goblin Grendaes. And he had 1 hp left both times. Man I hate Goblins.
May 15, 2014 11:15 p.m.
cogumerlim says... #7
Spootyone, just to comment on the recent happenings with this archetype. I just played (during my lunch hour; I'm usually always busy, have a wife, and don't always have time to go to FNMs, so I do lots of testing on Cockatrice lol) against an Esper control deck (actually, it had black mana, but I really just saw the funcionalities of a UW control, which are already enough lol). The result: I CONTROLLED the board, not him. Ajani, Mentor of Heroes just shred my opponent's strategy to tears. I won the first game so easily that It made me forget the past times of difficulties playing Selesnya against control: I kept pounding him with my 11/11 trample ELVISH MYSTIC! hahaha... seriously, he was always killing my creatures, but I kept the pressure with Ajani, who pumped the mystic. When his life was low enough, he cast an Elspeth and made tokens to hold me off... but then I pumped the elf again and charmed him twice to get the game. I REALLY defeated an opponent with an Elvish Mystic, that's certainly an accomplishment (and something you can only really do with Ajani hehe).
The second game was longer, as sideboards came in. There was a turn in which I "drew" two cards: a Nessian Game Warden with Ajani and then a Polukranos, World Eater with the Warden (with three forests). It was fun. He kept wrathing me with Supreme Verdict s, used like three Detention Sphere s, but I kept refilling my hand and dumping threats on the board. He was always behind. He was so desperate that he had to cast a 5-mana Sphinx's Revelation (for only 2!), just to see if he could catch up. I had an Ajani on the board, another one in my hand, an Elspeth, Sun's Champion in my hand and a Garruk, Caller of Beasts also in my hand. Ajani brought me another Garruk. I cast Elspeth, he countered; I cast one Garruk, he countered again; but when I cast the second Garruk, he didn't have any more counters. And then it was game. He rage quit, because I was just one turn away from getting 100 life from Ajani (without losing him) and I could have all the creatures I could get with my super friends.
Really, it was fun. And made me proud of Selesnya again hehe :)
The slight differences when I use the deck is that I play one less land (a forest) and a fourth Banishing Light . Besides, because Nessian Game Warden is sideboarded and Archangel of Thune is in the mainboard, I balanced forests (8) and plains (5) a bit more. And my sideboard is also a bit different, as I use 2 Pithing Needle , 2 Scavenging Ooze , no extra Nyx-Fleece Ram and only one Glare of Heresy .
It's working fine like this. :)
May 16, 2014 2:49 p.m.
CaptainCaveman says... #8
Love Selesnya decks so +1 from me.
-2 Garruk, Caller of Beasts for +2 Ajani, Caller of the Pride -1 Ajani, Mentor of Heroes for +1 Archangel of Thune -2 Mana Confluence for +2 Sylvan Caryatid -2 Nyx-Fleece Ram for +1 Selesnya Charm and +1 Banishing Light
check out my son's deck ... Punk's Deck and tell me what you think
May 19, 2014 1:51 a.m.
marcosousasr: Thank you for the kind words and suggestions! I'll see if I can't check out that deck for you.
Garruk cannot be removed. He's actually one of the single most important parts of the deck, granting my access to refueling against midrange and control. Same goes for Ajani, mentor of heroes. Caller of the pride is pretty decent and I considered putting him in here, but ultimately I think I choose the side of resiliency and inevitability over super-aggression.
May 21, 2014 2:05 a.m.
WhiteEyesCloudedbyH8 says... #10
How have 3x Courser of Kruphix been working, any reason you aren't running the full 4x?
June 14, 2014 9:11 p.m.
I'm not sure how he currently feels but I know he has tested with 4 coursers. I believe he didn't really like more than one, and just wanted to be drawing more threats mid to late game. Hope this helps!
June 14, 2014 9:58 p.m.
WhiteEyesCloudedbyH8: I'll let you in on a little secret. I'm currently working on an update to the deck (article to follow). In this update, I go back up to four coursers and I'm quite happy with it :) Thank you.
June 14, 2014 10:40 p.m.
RedSoxFanKy: Lol. No, you were correct! Given the information that has been released thus far, at least.
cogumerlim says... #1
Clap, clap, clap! Spootyone, you managed to do superbly in this edition what I've been trying since the last one. You can see the deck I made here: Selesnya Midrange BNG.
My whole intent with this deck was to have card advantage in a Selesnya midrange build. I used three Garruks (although here it is showing only two, but that's because I was testing other things hehe), Karametras and Coursers, and I eventually had this advantage, when things worked. I NEVER - EVER - lost to aggro because when Trostani, Selesnya's Voice hit the board, it was game over for them. If it was joined by Courser of Kruphix , Archangel of Thune and Karametra, God of Harvests , all of my creatures got instantly ENOURMOUS, with multiple counters being deployed multiple times per turn. It was insane and really fun.
...but it SUCKED against control, MUD and MBD. Although I really pushed myself into loving Karametra, she just isn't good enough, unfortunately. But then, came Ajani, Mentor of Heroes . And I'm happy again.
The first two things that came to my mind were: "GW MIDRANGE HAS CARD ADVANTAGE!!" and "GW AURAS CAN FINALLY ROCK!!". Because the auras deck was easier to brew (or just because I started with it lol), I began working with for some time, and it has really been working well (and Kruphix's Insight , alongside Ajani, really helps here). And you can see it here: Selesnya Hexproof JOU. But I always had plans for a new midrange deck. But I'm late, as you came first hahaha....
Really, this deck looks just like what I've been thinking. I'm happy you have the same fondness I have regarding the ram. She rocks! And that's the point, with Ajani she RAMS!! And it's interesting that you've come up with the idea of the super friends. I was just thinking of Ajani + Garruk, but, really, why not Elspeth, too? You're right on this one, each one complement the other, and that's perfect.
I like the numbers you have for each creature, I think it's really balanced and functional. Maybe, if you wished to play one less land you could play one more Banishing Light , but maybe that's not really necessary. While I was reading your deck I was considering "how could him add Voice of Resurgence and/or Selesnya Charm , but in the end I agree with you that they are unnecessary in a build like this, especially the Charm (even more so Advent of the Wurm , as it's not a creature spell). Maybe you could have a use for the Voice against control, but it's such a specific use that, really, you can challenge control with other means - mainly by matching its card advantage tricks with Ajani, Garruk and Nessian Game Warden .
But I do have some questions for you. the first being: Why do you leave Archangel of Thune on the sideboard? It's such an important card against MBD, MUD, and aggro that I think that you should keep it mainboard in Nessian Game Warden 's place, and then side in the Warden when you play against control. Or even have a mix of both against MBD or anything with lots of removal. What are your thoughts on that?
Second, as we see the rise of new dredge decks, maybe it could be important to have one more Scavenging Ooze sideboard. And, really, I ALWAYS have TWO Pithing Needle on my sideboard because it is SO important against control AND Pack Rats. Maybe you could reduce the numbers of Glare of Heresy , especially if you had an extra Banishing Light mainboard, but it's jut a thought - and I'd like you to tell me what you think.
Anyway, I really enjoyed to see this deck and to notice that I have a fellow Selesnya fan out there who is climbing up the ranks in the Magic Community! :)
+1! Congrats, keep up the good work and best of luck!
May 15, 2014 6:25 p.m.