The Queen's Egg

Commander / EDH Mortlocke

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M21 Grim Tutor Reprint —June 29, 2020

With the reprint of Grim Tutor comes a new semi-affordable tutor option that I simply can't ignore. But what to cut? Homing Sliver seemed like the perfect choice because in the entire history of this deck Homing has never cast - only used it for it's in hand tutor ability. So now, instead of paying , i'm paying (and 3 negligble life) to tutor anything in my deck as opposed to just a Sliver. Sure it's it's at sorcery speed, but I think the trade-off is worth it. What do you think? Is this a good swap?

Yarok says... #1

Hit the nail on the head...?

June 7, 2020 1:40 p.m.

Doombeard1984 says... #2

With you on that @Mortlocke. Also of course, if you are running Crystalline Sliver you won't be able to steal with Sliver Overlord, so again, in that respect, Unnatural Selection is wholly dead card, amoeboid changling is at least a bod that triggers abilities and can be more than just a 1/1.

Also, heres a picture of my custom Amoeboid Rockstar my friend did for me [ROCKER AND HIS CHICK] (http://Amoeboid Rockstar and his burb https://imgur.com/gallery/RGN1Hdi "enter image title here")

June 7, 2020 4:24 p.m.

Doombeard1984 says... #3

Well that didn't work lol, will try again

June 7, 2020 4:28 p.m.

Doombeard1984 says... #4

June 7, 2020 4:56 p.m.

Doombeard1984 says... #5

I give up lol

June 7, 2020 4:57 p.m.

Mortlocke says... #6

Yarok, you don't know what "Hit the Nail on the Head" means? Well, it means "you've found exactly the right answer." Basically I was saying that bigrigroy's analysis of Unnatural Selection as a "Win more" card is the right conclusion or analysis in the context of a Sliver Overlord EDH deck. Hope that clears up your confusion.

Doombeard1984, forgot to even mention the ol' non-bo of Crystalline Sliver and Unnatural Selection. Yeah, that definitely would be a less than ideal situation. BUT at the very least you can use Selection to deny an opponent the chance to target one of their own creatures for an equip with a Sword of Feast and Famine for example. But yeah...that's still less than ideal. Oh and to post your image, try using the "Direct Link" option in imgur. LOL

June 7, 2020 5:31 p.m.

Doombeard1984 says... #7

So, this should be the image

Amoeboid Changeling

June 7, 2020 5:49 p.m.

Yarok says... #8

Thx, I got it now

June 7, 2020 7:02 p.m.

Mortlocke says... #9

Doombeard1984, haha, nice. I love it. My dream Amoeboid Changeling would be an alter that makes the Changeling look like a Sliver - but still maintain the aesthetic of it's original form.

June 7, 2020 7:38 p.m.

Doombeard1984 says... #10

So...what do you think of the new rules coming for commander concerning death triggers for commanders? Child of Alara and Elenda, the Dusk Rose (a deck i have remade because if the rule changes) become much more interesting cards to work with

June 8, 2020 2:26 p.m.

Mortlocke says... #11

Doombeard1984, I think the rules change for "entering the graveyard" also being able to trigger in the command zone is a simple, yet elegant change that only serves to promote and improve the health of EDH/Commander. That simple change has empowered so many lower tier commanders - and has changed up the meta. I'm excited to see the nightmare that will be Yosei, the Morning Star stax or Elenda, the Dusk Rose being able to fire off with more consistency and with better tools at it's disposal. Speaking of Elenda, have you seen that crazy price spike of hers? According to MTGoldfish she went up 17%

June 8, 2020 4:31 p.m.

Doombeard1984 says... #12

I have seen Mortlocke. I was lucky to still have her from my very old terrible version of a deck with her lol. I got her for pretty much bulk rare price. Same for Child of Alara. Will be interesting to see the markets react. I also totally agree that this change will be a very healthy alteration to EDH. Always found it weird commanders didn't work the way the felt they should do.

June 8, 2020 5:15 p.m.

Doombeard1984 says... #13

If you are interested, this is my new Elenda build Dusk...And Her Embrace

June 8, 2020 5:17 p.m.

abierto says... #14

Hey! About Skyshroud Claim, isn't It too High 4 cmc? Have you ever thought about replacing it with Carpet of Flowers?

June 13, 2020 2:59 a.m.

TonyStark9001 says... #15

abierto: cmc 4 isn't that high in commander. and the ramp from Skyshroud Claim is so much better than Carpet of Flowers. your opponent may not even have islands. Skyshroud Claim can search for dual lands and thins the deck. the extra mana can also be used outside of your main phase, unlike Carpet of Flowers.

June 13, 2020 3:06 a.m.

abierto says... #16

TonyStark9001 Since this deck is cEDH oriented, 4cmc for a ramp is way too much. Wasting a 3rd or 4th turn just for some ramp doesn't feel too much right for me... Usually at 4th/5th turn people are aiming to close their game... And with Skyshroud you just... ramped.

June 13, 2020 6:15 a.m.

Mortlocke says... #17

"Wasting a 3rd or 4th turn just for some ramp doesn't feel too much right for me... Usually at 4th/5th turn people are aiming to close their game... And with Skyshroud you just... ramped."

abierto, you forgot the 2nd part - I then tutor for the mana that I need to cast interaction during that other player's turn when they attempt to fire off. I get that Skyshroud is definitely not one of the optimum cEDH choices when it comes to ramp - but I don't quite have the money yet for Three Visits. To be fair, TonyStark9001 did point out the primary reason why Skyshroud is still in here - I get two ABU lands in play untapped.

June 13, 2020 10:05 a.m. Edited.

TonyStark9001 says... #18

abierto: being competitive commander doesn't change the fact that Skyshroud Claim is still better than Carpet of Flowers for exactly the reasons i already mentioned.

June 13, 2020 4:08 p.m.

Mortlocke says... #19

abierto, TonyStark9001 your discorse convinced me that there are better options out there than Skyshroud Claim. While yes, it is a great ramp card, within the realm of competetiveness one must prioritize efficient, lower cost spells. Spoils of Victory is a placeholder for when Three Visits sees a reprint. That card is definitely not on the reserved list and will see a reprint at some point. No use in spending $150 on a common that could easily slip in with almost any upcoming supplementary set.

June 18, 2020 9:25 a.m.

TonyStark9001 says... #20

mortlock: thats...cool i guess? we were simply discussing Skyshroud Claim vs Carpet of Flowers. nothing more.

June 18, 2020 12:02 p.m.

abierto says... #21

Mortlocke That might be something more efficient. I'll decktest that too! But I'm still thinking about Carpet of Flowers as a better ramp somehow: you can drop it at turn one, at at least one player on your pod will play blue.. Competitive decks without blue are a minority: I guess one of them will fetch a dual or a shockland with "island" printed on it. And even if there's 1 island otb, it will be of a color of your choice, on each of your turns. IDK if I still want to spend 3 mana for a single land card: I can then play a mana rock at 3 cmc like Coalition Relic or a more cheap Darksteel Ingot, which is ind. and can save us from our own Harmonic Sliver.

June 18, 2020 2:26 p.m.

bigrigroy says... #22

How do you gents feel about Rewind taking one of the 'counterspell' slots? My thought is that it can enable mana to still be used on a tutor from Sliver Overlord, or some other sliver shenanigans like Quick Sliver or some other cheeky interaction

June 28, 2020 3 a.m.

Mortlocke says... #23

TonyStark9001, I can't mention alternative options between the two being discussed? Well excuse me. -_- Honestly, I'm not very convinced that Carpet of Flowers is the best option within the context of this deck. I think abierto is blinded by the concept of Flowers being considered competitive - not thinking that it may misfire depending on what i'm facing. In my case, the usual suspects this deck faces are Najeela, Blade-Blossom and Derevi, Empyrial Tactician stax. Both run alot of non-typed non-basic lands. Thus making the odds relatively moderate to low that an opponent will place down an island for Flowers to trigger off of. Stritctly speaking, I think this Enchantment is all about High risk - high reward.

Personally, I just don't like the idea of hoping that an opponent will ignore the very obvious ramp on my side of the board and is willing to award me an advantage on my next main phase. Sure, that would change how my opponent plays their deck, but doesn't necessarily hinder their boardstate. Besides, it doesn't even interact with my absurdly expensive manabase. What's the point of Revised Duals if you can't fetch them at every opportunity? For now, Skyshroud Claim is in as a place holder in my physical deck, but when Wizards finally reprints Three Visits - i'll run it. Having access to a Revised dual sooner is always better.

p.s. - I will revisit Flowers the moment Urza, Lord High Artificer rears his ugly head in my meta.

June 28, 2020 11:28 a.m. Edited.