Thinking about adding on

chight10, 13 years ago

I ordered Grab For Power deck a while ago and am recieving it soon, I really want to throw both the Rune-Scarred and the Throne of Empires in here. Would this be a good Idea at all?

Card draw removed

sample101, 13 years ago

Removed card draw in favor of more removal and counterspells.

illbubb, 13 years ago

Also, I'm starting to think that I would like to make this standard. since izzet and storage matrix are not in standard, what would you suggest replacing them with while remembering that izzt is for mana, and storage is for stalling until I can get the combo out.

illbubb, 13 years ago

Obviously this a cheaper deck. I just wanted a nice standard deck for casual gaming with my friends. If you have any cheap/cheapish suggestions to help make it a better deck, I'm all for it!

SexyNoodle90, 13 years ago

The idea is that first strike will make my infect really effective. For example. i have a 4/4 infect with first strike, u block with a 7/7... By the time u return combat damage u will only be swinging me for 3 damage and i survive.

WaRl0rD, 13 years ago

Sealed Deck.

hygroscopicguy, 13 years ago

Pretty dead-set on running this this week. A slight problem - I'm short of the key cards: I only got my hands on 1 puresteel and 1 body and mind. I'm in need of the paladins and swords pretty badly. I'm not stingy and am ready to fork out whatever cash or stuff in my decent trade binder for these..... Are these common items I'll find in trade binders at FNM? Are there any decent subs for these cards shouod I fail to obtain them in time?

Mana

LilianaoftheBill, 13 years ago

The mana base will be better once I get the lands I need.

olowleye, 13 years ago

first strike death touch is my defense along with flash deathtouch..to get morbid goin an pumpin them demons out with the priest.. ima newb thats usin half the set of innistrad...any opinions are greatly appreciated

Arcbound Crush

alanpardo, 13 years ago

Hi!

b.ashley110, 13 years ago

This is mostly just a placeholder deck so I can edit it and whatnot. Nothing is final.

Changes?

Shalvan, 13 years ago

I'm thinking about replacing Chimeric Masses and Thrummingbirds with delvers and invisible stalkers. They provide good offense, they both get stronger when Architect hits the board, but it would make contagion clasps less useful in this deck. It would also open the possibility to add some other kind of removal (not much of it available for mono blue though). I am considering running a full set of Treasure Magi, and also Contagion Engine... Mini day of judgement for your opponent's creatures is not something to scoff at. Certainly the manabase needs an improvement. Having just basic lands is... mediocre. I also think about getting rid of Etched Champion and putting another Metamorph instead. I also got a Mindslaver recently, which could make a nice addition to the deck. Still not sure about counterspells... Certainly Mana Leaks are awesome early on, but then their usefulness falls... Negate is good, but less flexible. Turn aside is even less flexible than Negate, but cheaper - and I find myself having those 2 mana to counter a spell quite rarely. I also own two Redirects, which could be awesome sideboard cards against burn or black removal decks. And of course Stoic Rebuttals, aka Counterspell for artifact decks.

b.ashley110, 13 years ago

Went 4-1 last night at the local TNM.

Stave off

Nosferatu, 13 years ago

Another note: The 4x Stave Off was a direct response to a friend playing his new Graveborn deck. They work in the deck like gold, but they were not in the original idea.

honey, 13 years ago

version 3.0 looks almost nothing like 1.0. should've just started a new deck but i'm kind of liking what's coming together here. let me know what you think, comments appreciated. thanks

olowleye, 13 years ago

any idea an opinions are more then welcome everyone'

olowleye, 13 years ago

total ruff draft...nothin finish`d at all.. any ideas an opinions are more then welcome everyone'

little update

npcmaster, 13 years ago

Messed with it a bit. Gnaw to bone was not useful early enough. So the plan is: drop them wolves, constant attack, some creature control from Nightfall Predator and Prey Upon, some emergency Naturalize, curse and enchant for nasty advantage. And yes, this is all from one set. Cause its casual.

Tempered Steel Sideboard

numa529, 13 years ago

I've thought long and hard about the tempered steel matchup, and i realized something... i have way too much sideboard against kessig wolf run. all i really need is those Phyrexian Metamorphs for the thruns, and the Spellskites... what will Flashfreeze do? counter a Primeval Titan? that's what Dissipate MB is for.

as for tempered steel... what do i have there? a few Ancient Grudges, and i suppose Ratchet Bombs to get up to 3 and kill off the Tempered Steels? i don't think that will help much...

so im putting in more sideboard for tempered steel, and fast aggro in general in the form of Blasphemous Act... now before you say its a bad card, think about it. when 2 tempered steel's are out and giving +4/+4, i need a board wiper. considering the board will consist of a memnite, vault skirge, legionnaire, origin spellbomb token, and a delver, maybe even a glint hawk? that puts it down to 3-4 mana for an end-all board wiper in red, that doesn't compete with Dissipate in the heavy mono-colored slot.

so for now, -2 Flashfreeze and +2 blaphemous act. i may even put more blasphemous act and get rid of the lone arc trail in the sideboard... or possibly a ratchet bomb since tokens aren't the most popular in my meta.

comments and suggestions appreciated!

First Update

Awkamess9, 13 years ago

Changed the mana base and made the deck more BUG instead of BGu. Streamlined it with ponders, mana leak, and birds. Made a sideboard. Excited to see your responses bringing it to 1/13/12 FNM. Comments/Suggestions!

Some thoughts...

Caviarmy, 13 years ago

I had won a wednesday night magic with this deck in an earlier form; however, I feel that now more players are comfortable with werewolves and the evolution of the top netdecks for this block have rendered this deck pretty weak.

I found I was substituting Thrun, the Last Troll in about every 4 out of 5 games. I decided just to make him mainboard.

I really hate Daybreak Ranger  ^Flip. Every time he's in my hand I wish he was something else (unless there's lots of flying on the board).

I feel that this deck played more consistently when I had Gatstaf Shepherd  ^Flip. However, I substituted him out for Birds of Paradise. The flow of me dropping werewolves each turn feels janky now

I rarely get to see Mayor of Avabruck  ^Flip play. When he does get out though, he wins most games.

Loss Conditions:

• I'm not getting enough of my low mana-cost cards early on. Kruin Outlaw  ^Flip/Instigator Gang  ^Flip come up too often, and not Mayor of Avabruck  ^Flip.

• I find that I typically get controlled hard early game and then start drawing nothing but mana after turn 4.

• Mana seems well-tuned, however, about half my games I'm flooded or screwed.

• Any opponent's creature with more than 5 toughness typically is beyond my control.

Suggestions on how to make this deck more interesting to play are wholly welcome. I wish this deck had more control/draw. I also REALLY enjoy it when Manabarbs is my win condition. A way to make this fit in mainboard would be great.

Hmmm...

ottosmagic13, 13 years ago

Tested this against a few decks, it's not a bad idea. I'm going to start tweaking it and developing a sideboard so I can take it to a FNM. Please comment!