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| Arena | Legal |
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Thoughtseize
Sorcery
Target player reveals their hand. You choose a nonland card from it. That player discards that card. You lose 2 life.
Cloudy2024 on
Mono Black Control
2 weeks ago
must run 4 Thoughtseize and some Inquisition of Kozilek
Cloudy2024 on
Retro Wizards (Grixis)
2 weeks ago
maybe some Thoughtseize in the main and less sureil lands, as three is probably enough
Evensong96 on
The Stars Align
1 month ago
Thanks zap, appreciate the feedback! First, thanks for the sideboard thoughts, and yeah, Rhystic Study probably isn't the best in this deck. As far as backup plan goes, this deck very deliberately has no backup plan. I want to find a list that makes this strategy efficient and competitive in a very hostile environment. So Nadu could be a good include, but I'm only going to include him if he accelerates the main win con or provides other utility. For this particular deck, if I win by any other means than getting my Hedron Alignments aligned, I've lost the game.
As for Swords to Plowshares, are you thinking of running them just to slow the opponent down? As far as adding control goes, I mostly want to do that on the basis of actual play experience, because it's hard to read the right balance of control without actually playing the cards.
Thoughtseize goes straight in, because we can also target ourselves to get a Hedron Alignment into the graveyard that way
zapyourtumor on
The Stars Align
1 month ago
Just to preface this with a disclaimer that I have never played a game of legacy in my life
Three steps ahead and minds aglow are probably not playable. Deck wants at least one basic, probably a basic island. I recommend running Swords to Plowshares maindeck. Probably also want Thoughtseize just for more disruption and protection, since there are some things you can't interact with on the stack.
Rhystic study is bad in 1v1 and also not useful as a sideboard slot. I recommend looking at some legacy decks for sideboard options. Stuff like consign to memory, pending, flusterstorm, pithing needle, ghost vacuum (can exile your own hedron), etc.
Lastly I think the deck needs a backup plan. For example Nadu Breakfast has both Cephalid mill combo, Nadu combo, saga construct beatdown backup plan, nadu beatdown backup plan. Reanimator has murktide beatdown plan, and before the bans they had grief and troll beatdown plans as well. Because you have entomb you could fit a reanimation plan here but I'm not sure. But definitely need some way to win if you get hedron alignment surgicaled or something.
CommanderNeyo on
Lord Tiago, Forsaken Spellbinder (Updated Again)
2 months ago
Personally, I would remove the following:
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Vampire Hexmage, as it only works well with Thing in the Ice Flip - and is otherwise a dead card. If you really want the effect, you could consider Heartless Act, which works as removal or can trigger Thing in the Ice Flip at instant-speed.
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Murder, at 3 mana is a high price to pay to remove a creature, and there is more efficient removal out there. Consider cards like Fatal Push, Dismember, or Infernal Grasp
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Dash Hopes, giving your opponent the choice to keep their spell is not ideal for a control deck like this one.
I would put 2 or 3 Murktide Regents in the mainboard, as the card is a powerful wincon.
Psychic Frog should probably come out of the maybeboard, as it works well with Murktide and is a powerful card draw engine and wincon in its own right.
You might also consider cards like Duress, Thoughtseize, or Inquisition of Kozilek to rip apart your opponents' hands.
While you may not want to net-deck, you may want to check out what are popular decks so you can tune your sideboard to match (or just go to your LGS and see what they play there).
TheVectornaut on
Monocolor hell
2 months ago
Cool to see this combo actually being tried out. Depending on the local modern meta, I could see this struggling with both speed and consistency. And if you're worried about wincons getting countered, I'd also be worried about the combo being disrupted. Something like Vexing Shusher could help get past countermagic, but it doesn't solve the more pressing issue of post-sideboard hate. Liquimetal Coating has some redundancy with Myr Landshaper but Splinter does not. A single Disruptor Flute, Ancient Vendetta, or more likely a Thoughtseize into Surgical Extraction could suddenly make things pretty tough. I think the deck is also likely to struggle against creature threats, especially when you haven't resolved a Liquimetal Coating. If you're willing to splash into black, I think Tear Asunder is better than Shattering Blow while having the option to kick and remove creatures and planeswalkers in a pinch. And while I know you'd prefer to exile over destroying, Assassin's Trophy is also very flexible without Coating. You might even be able to bait an opponent into searching for a basic to Splinter in cases where they don't already have one. Path to Exile is similar if you prefer white. Adding more colors would additionally justify running more shocks or other 2+ land type duals of different colors, something which would allow you to use fetches stolen by Oblivion Sower more reliably. Staying in red, there's still Abrade, Untimely Malfunction, Brotherhood's End, Explosive Derailment, and Overwhelming Surge as options. A final card that i think might fit here is Wrenn and Six. It's just such a nuisance in Gruul decks, keeps you on curve with a single fetchland, can get back Buried Ruin to keep your artifacts online, and the ultimate can even let you Splinter repeatedly if the game goes long. As for sideboard options, that will always depend on what you're actually facing. Still, I'd probably focus a little more than normal on matchups with decks that run few basics or few lands altogether. As an example, Leyline of the Void against manaless dredge or Blood Moon against amulet titan. If you're playing against refined versions of decks like that, I think it's still gonna be tough, but you gotta do what you gotta do for the sake of the janky combos!
jonjonhholt on
Pauper Scam (with Wildfire)
3 months ago
this deck looks dope! theres a new card coming out in edge of eternity that could be a fun addition to the deck
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legendofa on
Grrr
4 months ago
What's the intent of Wall of Vines and Corpse Blockade? I know that having a direct win condition isn't the main priority of this deck, but I strongly recommend putting one in anyway. If you're trying to be the last one standing in free-for-all matches, you can't always rely on your opponents to 100% cooperate. The defenders are less proactive than other cards here.
Next thought is that the Liquimetal Coating + Splinter is cute, but the Coatings have nothing to do without the Splinters. This can be switched out for some other control options, or if you want to keep the style points, use Glissa Sunseeker. There's probably enough deck removal as-is.
I'm a big fan of discard, so I'm going to suggest the 1-mana options there. Anything from Duress to Inquisition of Kozilek to Thoughtseize will be a good turn 1 option. Right now, your 1-drops are all either reactive or passive, and this deck wants to start shredding fast, not wait for the opponent to build up resources.
Normally, I'd suggest Abrupt Decay here for general-use removal, but it sounds like your group leans toward the higher end of the mana curve. Assassin's Trophy is a similar option, if you can deal with helping your opponent ramp.
I'm a little more cautious about this next suggestion, since it's going to be very gimmicky, but a copy of Chancellor of the Spires can kickstart your Surgical Extractions and Extirpates.
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