True-Name or Goyf
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Posted on April 15, 2014, 9:55 p.m. by blackmarker90
So i am building a RUG Delver deck and was wondering which is better to run True-Name Nemesis or Tarmogoyf .
Nemesis is extremely resilient to removal and will eventually close a game out, but Goyf is usually larger and will close a game faster, but at the cost of being easily removed.
Just looking for opinions and reasons to run one over the other.
ryuzaki32667 says... #3
Traditional RUG Delver plays just Delver of Secrets Flip , Nimble Mongoose , and Tarmogoyf . The deck curves at 1 other than goyf, since most of the threats are 1 and the counterspells are either 1 or free like Force of Will . Here is a recent list for reference . link
April 15, 2014 10:13 p.m.
Tarmogoyf by a lot. 1-2 True-Name Nemesis might make it some where into the 75, but it's not hugely important nor does it synergies well with RUG all the time.
RUG is all about tempo and mana denial. Between Wasteland , Daze and the 18 or so lands, getting to 3 mana isn't always so easy. RUG also wants to close the game out quickly, and nothing hits like Tarmogoyf for the cost. It's not even that easy to remove, save Swords to Plowshares , since it's usually out of Lightning Bolt range.
True-Name Nemesis
plays much better with grindy decks that also have access to Stoneforge Mystic
and equipment. A simple 3 power unblockable can be outraced by most decks, put a Umezawa's Jitte
on it and that's basically impossible.
April 15, 2014 10:14 p.m.
goyf all day in rug delver, ive seen plenty of games rug player never taps for 3, as mentioned before, daze and wasteland
April 15, 2014 10:51 p.m.
blackmarker90 says... #6
Thank you, and I now have to find someone to trade with lol.
April 16, 2014 12:47 a.m.
true name nemesis all the way . tharmogryph can be killed more easilly than you thinklosing a bomb to victim of night hurts
April 18, 2014 10:24 p.m.
the3rdH0kage says... #8
@ h20 The deck at hand almost never has 3 mana to cast a creature. Besides there are quite a few answers to TNN. Golgari Charm a T1 Thoughtseize , Inquisition of Kozilek or Duress will do it also. Yeah True-Name Nemesis is a tad harder to kill then Tarmogoyf take into consideration the deck. Tarmogoyf is the better fit for the deck.
April 21, 2014 11:21 p.m.
chicagobearz says... #9
Neither. Eric Rill got 1st with 4x Deathrite Shaman
4x Delver of Secrets
Flip
1x Edric, Spymaster of Trest
and 4x Young Pyromancer
at a recent Legacy event. True-Name Nemesis
rocks in my USA delver a a sword carrier. Never owned a goyf, never will. Your deck looks pretty good, i'll probably playtest against it after posting this. At first glance I'd look into making room for Stifle
.
April 24, 2014 3:43 a.m.
blackmarker90 says... #10
Trying to get a playset right now, this is what I will run until I do , and that's BUG Delver with the DRS
EvenDryke says... #2
Why not both?
April 15, 2014 10:02 p.m.