Casual Mono White Humans Help
Posted on Nov. 9, 2018, 2:27 p.m. by GoblinsBeatElves
As the title suggests, I’m looking for help with my mono-white Human Tribal deck. Any suggestions are appreciated, but keep in mind that this is for casual multiplayer games. Here’s the list: Casual White Human Tribal
Also, I don’t have the budget for Cavern of Souls and other expensive cards like that. I can go for Champion of the Parish and Thalia's Lieutenant, but I would rather not buy cards that cost much more than that.
Thanks for the help!
Repel the Abominable is a good card for multiplayer.
November 10, 2018 12:32 p.m.
Thanks for the suggestion, PhoenixNest! That card looks pretty good, and I’ll try to put a couple copies in the deck.
November 10, 2018 2:04 p.m.
The list looks pretty utilitarian and I'm liking it. Some humans I'll put to your consideration on the chance you may not have considered them are Accorder Paladin, Precinct Captain, Thalia, Heretic Cathar, Militia Bugler, and a few that sit in the blurred line of budget-friendly: Kytheon, Hero of Akros Flip, Hero of Bladehold and Mikaeus, the Lunarch.
I built a soldiers tribal with mostly humans, it's not budget so it's just a theoretical build for me (I don't actually own Aether Vial or a number of the others). This is it if you're interested. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/meek-soldiers/?cb=1541883813
My version very much thrives on the CA provided by Mentor of the Meek so it doesn't use Honor of the Pure or Benalish Marshal, as they turn off the card draw from 2-power creatures. It's tricky but I was trying to minimize internal friction and maximize potential at the same time. Perhaps it's still better to include a couple of Anthem effects regardless.
November 10, 2018 4:48 p.m.
Thanks so much for be input, Wizardhat91!
Your last point brings up a good question: Does the buff from Benalish Marshal apply when the creature enters the battlefield? If so, Mentor of the Meek doesn’t work on very many of my creatures with Marshal out, and I might want to replace Mentor with something else.
I have already considered most of those first few cards you suggested, but I hadn’t heard of Militia Bugler yet. That might be worthy of consideration. Those bottom card lands might have to wait until I get a chance to upgrade the deck, as it’s already sitting at about $70, which is around my maximum price for most decks.
Your deck looks pretty neat, Good job on that. I like the idea of soldier tribal. I might try to make my own soldier tribal deck. Speaking of Aether Vial, what’s your opinion of including it in my deck? I actually own one copy in real life, so I’m wondering if it would be good or not in here.
November 10, 2018 7:44 p.m.
Indeed, the buff from Benalish Marshal or Honor of the Pure are state-based effects, so it applies to creatures before you get Mentor's trigger, so playing Imposing Sovereign with Mentor and HotP out, you would not get the draw. In contrast, if you had on the battlefield a Mentor and HotP and then cast Kazandu Blademaster, you would have a 1/1 on the stack that becomes a 2/2 as it enters the battlefield and two triggers at once, and I think it goes that you put them onto the stack in the reverse of the order you want them resolved. Then you pay 1 to draw a card, then you put a +1/+1 counter on it to make it 3/3.
My opinion on this is that Mentor of the Meek generally doesn't play well with state-based buff effects and creatures with 2 power, so it presents a question of quality vs. quantity, where Marshal represents quality and Mentor represents quantity. Of course, you get great value out of anthem effects with a large quantity of creatures under your control already, so I think the essential thing is that Mentor loses most of its value if it lands after your anthems, but not vice versa. I think the most straightforward thing to do is either play a bunch of one drops and then Honor of the Pure or WW two drops and then Light from Within. I run Marshal for either of those. Mentor is a new take for me.
I'm no expert but I think people would tell you a 1-of Vial is a bad idea, because the real deal is having one in your opening hand, which is a point of conflict any way you look at it because even with 4 of them you have just a 40% chance of seeing one in your opening seven (you have a 12% chance to see a 1-of in your opening seven). And you don't exactly want to mulligan after it, because then you stand to lose a critical mass of bodies that makes white aggro what it is (an issue to me if you have multiple vials in your first ten cards).
That's concerning the lack of card advantage that's typical of white weenie. If I owned an Aether Vial, I would totally put it in a creature deck, but my thought is that it's a terrible top deck if my hand is empty, but a fine top deck if I have creatures in hand or card advantage to abuse the vial. I think any number of vials would only help a deck with 4 Thraben Inspector and 4 Mentor of the Meek as a starting point. But you know. The best way to take advice is to smile and nod, then do it however you like :) And testing, if you have the chance, beats theorizing.
November 11, 2018 1:48 p.m.
Thanks for the response, Wizardhat91!
That is a little bit inefficient then, having playsets of Marshal and Mentor. Maybe I need to consider another source of CA in that slot. I’m currently testing out Militia Bugler as a replacement. While Bugler doesn’t give direct card draw, it does provide immediate value in case of removal, lets me filter out lands, which I wouldn’t need if I already reached 3 mana, and pick and choose which creature I like better.
You might have a point about Aether Vial. It is a bit weak late game when I don’t have many creatures. I’ll probably still test it out, just in case it does work out better.
Again, many thanks for helping with this deck.