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At the beginning of your end step, you may reveal the top card of your library. If you do, each opponent loses life equal to that card's converted mana cost.
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Baneful Omen Discussion
2 weeks ago
I definitely agree with more Apostles, and would also recommend considering Harvester of Souls, Dictate of Erebos, Grave Pact, Merciless Eviction, and Mortify. If you're looking for cuts, I'd start with Ancestral Vengeance, Aspect of Gorgon, Baneful Omen, Shadows of the Past, Torment of Scarabs, AEther Snap, Asphyxiate, Assassin's Blade, and Fated Return.
1 month ago
Thanks for the feedback! You've made several suggestions I agree with entirely, some I think are on point but need a few tweaks, and some I disagree with. I'll break it down card by card:
First, you're totally right about Army of the Damned, it's not as good in this deck as it is elsewhere. I've found it generally underwhelming every time I've drawn it, and I've never grabbed it off a tutor. Deploy to the Front is an excellent suggestion. Not only does it generally produce more value, but it helps me stabilize if I have a rough early game, something army is notoriously bad for. I'll put it on the acquireboard tonight. Ezuri's Predation and Horncaller's Chant seem a little low impact however. As for Divergent Transformations, that's a hilarious card I've never seen before. Chaos warping two things can be great, but I feel like my current draw, cheating, and removal effects are so much better that they outweigh the utility value of the card. I'll have to think about it more, however.
Spawning Grounds is card I saw when doing research for my deck and decided was too cute. It's painfully slow, as you mentioned, and I'd rather just be drawing cards in the lategame when I have the mana to cast whatever I want, since my cards almost always beat 5/5s.
I think you're underestimating the disgusting value I can get with Myojin of Seeing Winds. It draws me a card for EVERY PERMANENT I CONTROL. Even lands. It has yet to draw me less than 15 cards. The 3/3 sucks but I'd never play it for the body. Honestly the only reason I might drop it is I'd have a couple games where I couldn't use it because it'd deck me, but when my board's that developed it's a win-more situation anyway. While you're right that Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur is easy to remove and gives advance warning, it also draws me 7 cards, which is major gas. That's why I generally play it on my turn rather than abuse the flash ability. The discard on my opponents is just icing on the cake if I can make it happen. I also consider discard a form of resource denial, and I'm concerned going all in on making my friends dump their hands will lose me said friends.
Now on to All Suns' Dawn. Ooh boy. I think you underestimate the ability of the card to recur things besides my creatures (bring back Conflux for maximum degeneracy points), but I also have yet to use it for the amazing value it theoretically provides. Being unable to grab colorless cards is a bigger downside in this deck than it should be in 5 colors, but it is what it is. I may be cutting it. Debtors' Knell is another card I've never seen before, and I think I need more time to evaluate it. Theoretically, the payoff is insane, but I fear it may suffer the same issues as Dawn currently does. It definitely merits testing.
Baneful Omen is great synergy, but I feel it's a bit slow and not all that impactful, even when I hit cards like Progenitus. It's also outclassed (in my opinion) by similar cards: I'd sooner run my Twilight Prophet for the added lifegain and draw. I'll have to consider more if effects like that are strong enough for the slots they'd occupy. Definitely an interesting suggestion.
You're right, Grozoth isn't a huge play, especially since I've been cutting Grozoth targets left and right. It may be out of the deck soon, despite the wonderful "That's a card?" reactions I get with it. However, consider it's a 9/9 blocker too, and that I can get Myojin of Life's Web with it to vomit cards from my hand right after the draw.
I LOVE Cruel Entertainment, but for some reason it never occurred to me to add it to this deck. It'll probably go in with the next edit. Great suggestion!
That's where I am right now, but you've given me a lot to think about, and I might develop new opinions about a lot of your points as I consider them. Definitely appreciate the feedback!
1 month ago
As a brief forward, do take this advice with a grain of salt. It is purely my own musings on what is already a beautiful deck. That being said...
I think that Army of the Damned is honestly pretty weak. In terms of token generation, 13 is rather small, and even though they are 2/2s, 26 damage isn't killing anyone. While they could be used as chump blockers, you can honestly just use a bigger threat. I think that in terms of rivaling an actual token generation strategy Deploy to the Front is a better choice. You get chump blockers in a quantity that can compete with Assemble the Legion in late game or even Krenko, Mob Boss for a turn. Alternatively, Ezuri's Predation is a solid choice in dealing with token generators and in the right circumstances, counts as a one sided board wipe. Yeah, it forces you to attack things you might not want to, but it also forces your opponents to block with key pieces that are sure to die, I am thinking commanders and creatures with tap effects. Whichever way you go, Horncaller's Chant is a great follow up, and has value even if you dont have tokens, though admitedly not ton. If 40 Pegasi aren't enough to win a game, I am sure that 80 will be. In your deck, pairing any token generation with Divergent Transformations, is bound to be strong, and unpredictable in a fun way.
After you have ramped into more mana than you know what to do with, Spawning Grounds might be a way to go. It is slow, but it allows for full utility of unused lands.
Looking at your card draw, I find Myojin of Seeing Winds an odd choice. Its pretty answerable even with the indestructible keyword. Biomantic Mastery is more value and on the same turn it is played (and a sweet flavor win with Momir Vig). Any kind of card draw plus Cabal Conditioning gets the Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur effect without everybody gunning for you. When Jin-Gitaxias is played, everybody is given an opportunity to focus it down, but Cabal Conditioning limits their answers to instants and if not answered, sets you up for at least one full turn of unanswered plays.
The direct and continuous recursion of Debtors' Knell is probably better than All Suns' Dawn, even though you wont be getting cast triggers off of your Eldrazi, cheating your bigger things into play is usually better than getting them in hand
In this deck a card like Baneful Omen does a lot of work. Yeah it gives away a ton of information, but it is a nuisance that affects all opponents that thrives on your high cmc cards.
Also, Grozoth can only ever draw you a maximum of 6 cards, and while all of those have value, it always tutors for the same stuff, perhaps leading to stale gameplay.
Even if this hasn't been helpful, I hope it was at least a little bit thought provoking
2 months ago
Also, Day of the Dragons, Price of Knowledge, Spawning Grounds, Baneful Omen, and maybe Cruel Reality are great cards once you establish the 'counter every spell your opponents cast' combo. They all are very beneficial, cheap, and easy to cheat onto the battlefield with Enduring Ideal.
2 months ago
3 months ago
Thanks for the help, counterzenith and SnakeInASuit! When I first added in Magosi, the Waterveil I didn't even see the skip your next turn part. Guess I was too excited for more turns! I also like the combo with Jace, the Mind Sculptor, Emrakul, the Aeons Torn and Baneful Omen, Basically I would play the Baneful Omen, draw the Emrakul, use Jace's 0 ability to put it back on the top, reveal it at my end step and hit for 15. I do see that this is all a bit slow. So, I've edited it a bit. Cheers!
1 year ago
Thanks for the tips. I agree I need to put some board wipes in and I also plan on putting Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder in, along with Victimize, Archfiend of Depravity, and Butcher of Malakir soon. The deck as it is now is how I have it and I try to keep it to lower costing cards because of budget reasons. I do agree that Baneful Omen and Price of Knowledge are a bit high on the CMC though.
1 year ago
This deck is a decent base, however it is a little too focused on sacrifice triggers, and not enough on sacrifice value. Your commander and a few cards in the deck will be enough sac outlets, what you really need is fodder and value.
For lands go to manabasecrafter.com they will show you all possible mana fixings. Don't run any nonbasics that arn't highly effective, such as Pirahna Marsh.
I recently made a Yahenni deck of my own. Yahenni, Former Aristocrat. I run a low curve based on getting cheap creatures out and use sac to generate card draw/mana.
Boardwipes are your friend. When you blow up the board and leave a 50/50 commander behind, someone tends to die. Look for things like Plaguewind, Crux of Fate, Decree of Pain, etc.
Cards to cut:
Spellbook (Waste of a Card Slot), Renegade's Getaway (Low effect), Baneful Omen (Too expensive), Altar of Dementia (Mill does nothing), Shadows of the Past (Low impact), Price of Knowledge (Too expensive)