Need a Win Condition
Commander (EDH) forum
Posted on Feb. 3, 2012, 12:21 a.m. by KorApprentice
I am currently working on a casual Wizard EDH deck, but I'm not entirely sure how to approach it. I've made some progress with the decklist, but as the title says, it lacks a clear win condition. I don't want any kind of infinite or instant win combos, as this is a casual EDH. Any feedback is appreciated, I want this deck to be fun to play.
KorApprentice says... #3
It really is difficult to find a real win condition in mono Blue that isn't cheap or dirty. I'm not a huge fan of Trench Gorger, since he is likely to be removed. I was considering throwing in a Psychosis Crawler, but you so kindly reminded me that that would win instantly with Mind Over Matter. In fact, there are many infinite/instant win combos with Mind Over Matter, and quite a few with Intruder Alarm, but I like both cards and would like to run them. I may just have to make this into a combo deck and choose a different general for a fun deck. Thank you for the feedback, your deck looks pretty solid!
February 3, 2012 2:59 a.m.
Check out my Arcanis the Omnipotent deck mate, it too is for casual so I have some big not unfair blue creatures and for if people piss me off a Psychosis Crawler combo and Jushi Apprentice in there but it is for casual so rather than 30 counters which is boring i run bounce so i can defend myself but not insight rage by countering peoples threats lol you may find some stuff useful in there. my favourite is Tidespout Tyrant hes amazing and i wish he was legendary! play him copy him a few times and cast Boomerang and let the good times roll! alternatively as this is a wizard deck you have be a pro and run Supreme Inquisitor as one of your win cons and Lullmage Mentor otherwise use Patron of the Moon and Meloku the Clouded Mirror with a Training Grounds hopefully some of these meet your approval dude :-)
February 3, 2012 3:36 a.m.
KorApprentice says... #6
I'm not sure where you are going with Patron of the Moon + Meloku the Clouded Mirror + Training Grounds, since Training Grounds cannot reduce the cost to use their abilities to less than 1. Did you have a look at my actual deck by the way? I do indeed run Supreme Inquisitor and a combo with Lullmage Mentor + Artificial Evolution. Tidespout Tyrant could definitely wreak havoc on an opponent's field, but it costs way too much mana for me to justify running it without Dream Halls or some other janky way to put it into play. On that note, I think I'll add Dream Halls and Tidespout Tyrant, so thank you much for the suggestions maiden77!
February 3, 2012 4:02 a.m.
sorry I thought off top of my head one of their abilities costed 2! i was rushing as im at work lol, i use Quicksilver Amulet to cheat my stuff out lol or just wait while stalling as it is for casual multiplayer so usually get away with something cheaky, i will look at your deck now mate glad I helped a little! haha
BuLLZ3Y3 says... #2
Well, if you don't want any combo's (I would've suggested Mind Over Matter
+ Azami, Lady of Scrolls
+ Psychosis Crawler
) or instant win things (Mind Over Matter
+ High Tide
+ Blue Sun's Zenith
) I would suggest playing something really, really big, and protecting it with counter's and whatnot.
Something like Trench Gorger
, and you just exile the rest of your lands. A friend of mine played an Arcanis the Omnipotent
EDH and played 33 Counterspells, Arcanis, and Trench Gorger to win.
It's hard to find a solid win condition in blue that doesn't involve some combo or instant win. I enjoy strapping swords to efficient creatures and beating someone to death with them (Vendilion Clique
+ Sword of Fire and Ice
+ Sword of Feast and Famine
= scoop!).
I built an Azami, Lady of Scrolls EDH deck. Check it out if you'd like.
-BuLLZ3Y3
February 3, 2012 2:30 a.m.