The Ur Dragon's Raging Rainbow Party Friends
Commander / EDH
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Few trial changes —Oct. 6, 2017
Picked up Polluted Delta and Flooded Strand. That completes my set of allied fetches, improving the mana base even more.
Trying out two cards in the deck:
Elvish Piper--->Fist of Suns: People have been encouraging me to give Fist of Suns a try as it does really help with casting my commander. I really like Elvish Piper though so I want to find a way to bring her back in.
Teneb, the Harvester --->Thundermaw Hellkite: I found myself very rarely using Teneb's ability. Again, I may try to fit him back in as he is a very solid dragon. Thundermaw Hellkite is a meta choice. My meta actually does often have a fair number of flying chump blockers, making it difficult for all my dragons to connect. Thundermaw Hellkite is great at ensuring damage gets through by tapping down potential blockers. He's very efficiently costed too as a 5/5 flyer with haste for 5 mana.
Rabid_Wombat says... #2
New mana base looks sweet...sure the shocks are expensive but you will be impressed by how much faster the Dragons hit the battlefield. Maybe consider Prismatic Geoscope due to the extra land types you are now running thanks to the shocks?
Running all ten fetches in my tribal Dragon deck means I don't have any spare for my other edh decks- trying to stuck to a budget yo!
October 1, 2017 12:26 a.m.
MegaMatt13 says... #3
Revenantmike, Unclaimed Territory was already in there :) Don't own Descendants' Path but I'll think about picking one up.
Rabid_Wombat, yeah the enemy fetches in particular are very expensive. I may stick with just the allied ones. My only problem with Prismatic Geoscope is that it enters the battlefield tapped. When I run a mana rock over land ramping it's because I want the benefit of being able to use it right away. The geoscope has the potential to generate a ton of mana though.
October 1, 2017 7:18 p.m.
Attack_of_Mogis says... #4
New mana base looks pretty awesome. I have some recommendations though. The enemy fetches are expensive, but the Mirage slow fetches aren't. (Bad River, Rocky Tar Pit, Mountain Valley, Flood Plain, and Grasslands). I know that Prof over at Tolarian Community College recommends 10 fetches, so you could try those.
I still don't like Crucible of the Spirit Dragon, but that's because I was losing badly, and I had a chance to hang on if I drew any land that could produce colored mana the turn that it came down. Crucible is a pain to use. I would replace it with something else. Personally, I feel lands like those belong more in an Atraxa deck.
Also, have you thought of Sarkhan Unbroken yet? Even if you can't ultimate him, you still get mana fixing, card draw, and Dragon tokens.
October 2, 2017 9:20 p.m.
MegaMatt13 says... #5
Attack_of_Mogis, Sarkhan is definitely on my list of cards to pick up. Its price spiked after this deck was released. I have a hunch it may drift back down again after the hype wears off. I know that sounds weird considering I just spent a lot on lands but I just think it may come down in price (the lands on the other hand were just going to gradually keep rising)
You're probably right about Crucible. It's been ok but not great. I may swap it for Polluted Delta when I pick one up.
I thought about the Mirage fetches but decided they kinda defeat the purpose of why I invested in fetches: to speed up the deck. I'm trying to reduce the number of tapped lands in the deck.
Really appreciate all the suggestions!
October 2, 2017 11 p.m.
Rabid_Wombat says... #6
Mirage fetches are too slow...that's the reason they go for a buck each.
Sarkhan Unbroken will come down in price...however that ultimate takes way too long to trigger, sure it's awesome but he is like a giant bullseye for everyone round the table as they freak out over 20+ Dragons hitting the battlefield so they either attack him or you until he's gone. I'm running Sarkhan the Mad instead, he's cheaper and if you have two or three dragons he can Ultimate the turn he comes into play which takes out the player who is the biggest threat...he is totally mad bro!
October 3, 2017 1:38 a.m.
Attack_of_Mogis says... #7
You don't even need the ultimate on Sarkhan Unbroken, though. The +1 is card advantage and fixing, and the -2 makes more Dragons. He's relatively good even without the ultimate. Sarkhan the Mad seems good, but you can't get too much out of him.
October 3, 2017 3:53 p.m.
Rabid_Wombat says... #8
Attack_of_Mogis we both know you don't need the ultimate...but everyone else will see us as Archenemy while Sarkhan Unbroken is on the board. If you can get away with saying: "Hey guys, I'm just running Sarkhan Unbroken for mana fixing and card draw....nothing to do with that crazy ultimate!" you are playing a lot more casually than we are....Sarkhan the Mad has won me games on the turn he drops - ending a Mexican stand-off with 50+ damage against another Tribal Dragon player made that guy order Sarkhan el Loco for his The Ur-Dragon deck ;)
October 4, 2017 6:04 a.m.
Rabid_Wombat says... #9
Back to the deck I notice that Lurking Predators is glaringly absent...so good in multiplayer- have you considered it MegaMatt13?
October 4, 2017 7:17 p.m.
MegaMatt13 says... #10
Attack_of_Mogis and Rabid_Wombat:
I appreciate the discussion surrounding the two Sarkhans. Sounds like 2 different philosophies when evaluating the cards. I usually don't evaluate planeswalkers based on their ultimate abilities (unless they can be used the turn they drop or perhaps one turn later). Planeswalkers are inherently fragile in Commander because opponents can always agree to send creatures at it. Both Sarkhans generate good value at different times.
In terms of Lurking Predators, I really like the card. I had it in my Xenagos deck. My only concern here is that I'm not sure I have enough density in creatures to make it worth it. It costs 6 mana (the same cost in this deck as a 7 mana dragon effectively). I'd be worried about spending 6 and then not hitting anything. Still, I've put it on the maybelist as it is a card a I enjoy :)
Revenantmike says... #1
Take a look at Descendants' Path and the new card from ixalan Unclaimed Territory.
September 30, 2017 5:23 p.m.