Please Hold (Oloro Stax)

Commander / EDH* Immortalized

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July 6, 2017

Playing around i pulled off something rather cold. I cast Kozilek, Butcher of Truth early due to some ramp, and drew into Cataclysm *list* with it. this wipe leaves every player with exactly four permanents. Then i checked the annihilator count. Yep. The number was equal to ragequit.

Immortalized says... #1

I agree on some parts but, (and this may just be my exhausted brain talking, absolutely no offense or irritation intended) agree to disagree on others.

April 12, 2017 8:51 a.m.

Centaur2606 says... #2

This deck looks horrible to play against. I love it.

April 15, 2017 8:10 a.m.

Immortalized says... #3

Danke

April 15, 2017 8:48 a.m.

NoSoyYucateco says... #4

Have you thought about Solitary Confinement to go with your Necropotence?

April 21, 2017 4:05 p.m.

Immortalized says... #5

i have thought of it, but i'm not entirely sure it gets the pass

April 21, 2017 6:17 p.m.

Immortalized says... #6

NoSoyYucateco, what personally would you cut from this list?

April 21, 2017 6:21 p.m.

NoSoyYucateco says... #7

Solitary seems like a significant improvement over Norn's Annex.

April 21, 2017 6:30 p.m.

Immortalized says... #8

only should i happen to have both out. the annex is less conditional and the same cost, even if it protects a bit less.

April 23, 2017 8:40 a.m.

Immortalized says... #9

Hmmmmm... Having had that stick on my mind, Ender666666, what do you think of the previous suggestion?

April 25, 2017 6:09 a.m.

Gunpla says... #10

so maybe i am missing the point but why no Aetherflux Reservoir? this card is just plain gold with oloro, as you clearly will not be letting your opponents hit you or even try so as you build HP you can just nuke a problem player outright. but all in all i do like the deck very much.

May 7, 2017 5:04 a.m.

Immortalized says... #11

Gunpla, the point, very similar to a deck by Ender666666 is for your opponent to sit and suffer, watching as they can't do anything. Can't blame ya for not seein it. Remember that upvote :D

May 8, 2017 4 a.m.

Ender666666 says... #12

Norn's Annex is a great card if you have the room, but it CAN be circumvented so I usually prefer something that just prevents an attack entirely.

May 8, 2017 10:30 a.m.

Immortalized says... #13

Thanks for the input. i'll do some test trials.

May 8, 2017 11:14 p.m.

Stellato says... #14

Love the Oloro deck. Personally I like to run Zur's Weirding + Bloodchief Ascension to lock out opponents draw. You already have Necropotence to save you from them stopping your draw. Also, if you like Night of Souls' Betrayal + Humility for permanent board clear.

May 15, 2017 11:51 a.m.

Immortalized says... #15

The first combo is nice, but i feel it is lacking in a place here. the second however, intrigues me. In your opinion, what would the night replace in this deck Stellato?

May 15, 2017 11:37 p.m.

Stellato says... #16

I think that if you're only running Sanguine Bond and not Exquisite Blood you could drop it for that. Or, maybe replace Boon Reflection since this is more of a stax deck and Oloro + Venser's Journal already offsets some damage. Thats just what i would do, but think about any cards that have been dead in hand and see how it might fit.

May 16, 2017 12:30 a.m.

Immortalized says... #17

Thanks for the input, but i think i'll keep the bond. it's one of my few actual win conditions.

May 16, 2017 6:33 a.m.

Penthoplayer says... #18

When you can, If suggest a few high - price cards.

The Abyss and The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale because of so few creatures

Moat and Island Sanctuary - we don't like being attacked.

Serra's Sanctum - fast mana

Enchanted Evening - Goes well with Sphere of Safety, and, if you get it, Serra's Sanctum.

May 16, 2017 10:38 a.m.

Immortalized says... #19

Never much been a fan of evening. it leaves so many holes.

May 16, 2017 11:33 a.m.

RivenEsq says... #20

I don't play a complete Stax build myself, so I'm not totally sure what cards to suggest you add or to replace. Your budget also appears as though it is very high, which makes it more unlikely that there are a whole lot of changes to be suggested as that typically indicates the list is already very tuned. I will mention a couple more minor things that I think can be tweaked.

One thing I would say is that it is possible you have too many high CMC lock pieces. Your CMC is around a 3.5 and I honestly think it should be below 3, and probably closer to 2.2-2.5 in an ideal world. When you're running a Stax/Taxes list, you're going to want to keep your own costs very, very low. Having lock pieces or tax pieces that cost 5 or 6 become difficult to get out between your other early game pieces that seek to increase those costs. Honestly, I would look to get rid of your more expensive and less essential lock pieces/win conditions and replace them with a tutor suite, which your deck does not seem to have. Enlightened Tutor, Mystical Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Demonic Tutor, Imperial Seal (if you have access to one) would all be good adds as it will greatly boost the consistency of your deck. Venser's Journal is a cute interaction with Necropotence, but doesn't do much else. I think it doesn't pull its weight in this list unless you are just gaining a lot of life from it constantly. It costs 5 mana to play, which is pretty prohibitive in the type of game a list of this budget seeks to compete in. I'm also a huge fan of Mox Diamond and Mox Opal for fast mana. The Dynamo and Gilded Lotus are both pretty expensive as far as mana rocks go, making them less useful in a deck that systematically makes everything cost more and wants to operate with fewer resources. With a Winter Orb you can also take great advantage of more mana rocks in the list. Other notable mana rocks are Mana Vault and Grim Monolith you can also run any of the Talismans a la Talisman of Dominance as I think those are pretty solid.

One last thing is that you seem to run a ton of basic lands and effectively only run 32 lands because 3 of them don't produce mana. You may hurt your own ability to produce the colors you need as your list is fairly color intensive. I'd have less issue with so many basics in a more artifact heavy deck (which you could do, but might as well play Sharuum at that point), but it looks like you may have problems getting the colors you need with so many basics. I count 27 cards that cost at least 2 colors to play and many of those are 3 mana spells, which means you want to be able to have your colors to play them on turn 3 and your list is evenly split amongst your 3 colors. How do you expect to play a Phyrexian Arena on turn 3, but have also held up UU for a Counterspell the prior turn? I'd really consider some cards like City of Brass, Mana Confluence, Reflecting Pool, Watery Grave, etc. At least 5-6 of those to help out with your mana base. As it is right now, it looks a little clunky. Even though you lose some to your basic land hate, your opponents will almost always lose more, so it is worthwhile to smooth out your ability to actually play your cards in the first couple turns.

Hope this helps. I apologize for no card tags. When I tried to post using them, it repeatedly gave me errors like the card name was wrong.

May 30, 2017 4:28 p.m. Edited.