[[Primer v3.6]] - OM_RATH!!! (2021 Update!!!)

Commander / EDH VexenX

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Primer v1.0 and Comment Reset —Oct. 14, 2015

This is my first attempt at a Primer! I know that there are a ton of errors in it, but to completely honest, I'm kind of winging it!:).

Please leave me as much feedback as you can! I want to continue to improve this Primer to be the best it can be.

COMING SOON!...

  • Combos

  • On a Budget?

  • Other Information

  • Possible Cuts

  • Possible Additions

  • Omissions

Plus any other ideas you might have!

VexenX says... #1

Just so everyone knows, if I get past 25 votes, I will make this deck list A Primer! I have already started to work on some of the details.

So please vote!

October 10, 2015 11:02 a.m.

DaftVader says... #2

Young Pyromancer? If those 1/1 elementals die while your commander is in play, it's going to hurt somebody a lot.

October 10, 2015 2:17 p.m.

jagcat says... #3

+1 Looking forward to that primer! Why no Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle though?

October 10, 2015 3:35 p.m.

jagcat says... #4

Triumph of the Hordes is also a great win con.

October 10, 2015 3:38 p.m.

VexenX says... #5

jagcat: Thank you for the upvote and suggestions! The only reason Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle is not in my deck is because I only have 10 mountains in the deck, so it would only be relevant if I play Boundless Realms or Scapeshift. I would have to add a few mountains before I consider it.

Now Triumph of the Hordes is tempting! I have considered it before, but now it is more tempting after this week's play test... It pretty much reads "if this spell resolves, you win" in this deck! Of course this is a bit of an exaggeration, but it would make your opponents sweat bullets... Lol. The downside is that after this resolves once in my playgroup I will draw A LOT of hate in my future games.. Lol

WOW! Just 5 more votes from a primer! I need to get to work! Thank you all again for the support!

October 10, 2015 5:21 p.m.

VexenX says... #6

DaftVader: I'm sorry, I almost missed your comment! Young Pyromancer is great, but what would you take out???

October 10, 2015 8:06 p.m.

griffstick says... #7

Your giving other people lands with this but perhaps your going up against a few decks thant have 3 or more colors if that's the case then there may not be any basic lands but you have plenty of basic lands and works great with your commander and your deck. New Frontiers

October 10, 2015 8:51 p.m.

VexenX says... #8

griffstick: I cant say that I've seen New Frontiers before. However, I'm not a big fan of 'group hug' cards. There are few exceptions, like the 'Tempting' cards, because they help me the most.

October 11, 2015 3:55 p.m.

VexenX says... #9

We hit 25 Votes! Thank you everyone for your support. I'll have the Primer up within the week!

October 11, 2015 10:53 p.m.

Leyden says... #10

My one suggestion is Green Sun's Zenith. The vast majority of your creatures are green, and while it is sorcery speed the utility it gives you is amazing especially in Commander.

October 12, 2015 6:19 p.m.

VexenX says... #11

Leyden: I agree that Green Sun's Zenith is an amazing card, I just don't know what I would take out for a creature Tutor. Also, I think I would add Tooth and Nail first because of all the ramp I have. Any suggestions on what I should remove?

October 13, 2015 12:45 a.m.

dcponcho says... #12

Even without an elemental theme, I highly suggest Shared Animosity I've had plenty of games where I had this doubling season and Omnath and swung for lethal against the whole board. I feel you're missing two very important lands to deck Thawing Glaciers and Ghost Town are great especially when combined with Burgeoning

October 13, 2015 7:46 p.m.

griffstick says... #13

October 13, 2015 8:15 p.m.

VexenX says... #14

dcponcho: Thank you for the suggestions! Your right, Shared Animosity needs to go in the deck, but what would you take out for it?

Thawing Glaciers and Ghost Town are also going to find a home in here too, great ideas! I will try to get them from my LGS tomorrow. Thank you!

griffstick: I'll have to keep this combo in mind!

October 13, 2015 8:42 p.m.

griffstick says... #15

if not a basic land for Thawing Glaciers then Terramorphic Expanse. as for Shared Animosity, you could take out one of these two Exploration or Burgeoning because having two of these is redundant. that's my opinion

October 13, 2015 9:07 p.m.

VexenX says... #16

griffstick: Exploration and Burgeoning do two different things for this deck, and i don't think I could take ether out. If all goes well, I should have plenty of lands to play. If Crucible of Worlds is in play it is like Christmas!

October 13, 2015 9:18 p.m.

VexenX says... #17

I think the two cards on the chopping block are Tempt with Vengeance and Animist's Awakening. Thoughts???

October 13, 2015 9:22 p.m.

dcponcho says... #18

I'm not a fan of Zendikar's Roll or Animist's Awakening personally. Though you run more lands than I do so it might be better in your list.

October 13, 2015 10:38 p.m.

griffstick says... #19

i look at both those cards as finishers and the only one with a weakness is Animist's Awakening after the game goes on for an hr or more. think about how many lands you have left in the deck and the chances of Animist's Awakening hitting its mark effectively. personally i love this deck and i don't see much room for improvement

October 13, 2015 10:54 p.m.

VexenX says... #20

griffstick and dcponcho: This is what makes building an EDH deck so challenging. There are so many great cards I would like to add to this deck, it is just hard to make the final cuts. The real question is if Animist's Awakening is elite enough to be classified a finisher. I have cast it 4-5 time so far, and it has never been very exciting, when when the 'Spell Mastery' triggers. However, I can see top decking Shared Animosity taking over the game. In retrospect, Animist's Awakening is a complete flop late game because of all the land tutoring I do.

I have my 5+ hours playtesting tomorrow at my LGS, so we will see how it goes. I will give a detailed update on what is working and what isn't. (PLEASE let me know if these detailed updates are interesting to any of you. If no one likes them I won't bother posting them each week.)

If I can find one, I plan to add Thawing Glaciers in place of Dormant Volcano tomorrow as well.

I also plan on putting Nissa's Pilgrimage back in the deck, a third Cultivate with a possible upside seems to good to pass up in this deck (I normaly get Forests anyway.)

October 13, 2015 11:40 p.m.

jagcat says... #21

Defenitely keep posting detailed updates ( and your primer!!). I'm saving up to build your list and the more that I know about the deck the better!

October 13, 2015 11:45 p.m.

VexenX says... #22

jagcat: That is really good to hear! I have been working on the Primer all week. It is quite a bit of info, and I hope you all like it. However, I will likely need some pointers once in post it, to make it even better. This is a first for me, but I love this deck and want everyone else to enjoy it too

October 13, 2015 11:54 p.m.