Bug'out control. . bogey on your six.
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just whip it. . whip it good —Oct. 4, 2013
Added 2x Whip of Erebos to side in in the case I need the life gain.
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Sheogorath says... #3
Have you thought of playing Read the Bones instead of divination since you're playing black anyway? Same cost, plus scry 2 before you dry is pretty powerful, potentially digging you 4 cards deep. It is a tradeoff however with the life loss, and I can understand if you just prefer divination :P
September 29, 2013 2:09 p.m.
chandlerwrx06 says... #4
Yeah I've thought of running the Read the Bones but I worry a lot about dealing with my lack of life gain. U/W has Sphinx's so its easy to use it in an expert deck. I'm just too cautious I think to get full use of the scry that read the bones offers.
September 29, 2013 4:25 p.m.
Nivs_Apprentice97 says... #5
.I agree with @Sheogorath personally. In my deck Pack Rat and Friends (enh enh :D) I recently started to run it and I think that it is twice as good as Sign in Blood was. In a pinch where you are for example drawing too much land, you could use it and make sure that you don't draw 2 more lands and then card advantage. Two life isn't that big a deal anyway if you are controlling the board. It's the same as a shock land, ya know?
September 29, 2013 8:24 p.m.
chandlerwrx06 says... #6
That makes a lot of sense, Read the Bones is a common so Im sure I will have a few rolling around. I'll swap them in for Divination to see how I like it, tiny little mana tweaking and everything should be very seemless.
September 30, 2013 1:40 a.m.
I would mainboard Thoughtsieze don't need to leave mana up to deal with the threat if they never have it. Also i think i great wincon is Reaper of the Wilds Hes everything. A beater, blocker, and doesn't get shot down... sounds like a mini aetherling.
September 30, 2013 4:20 p.m.
chandlerwrx06 says... #8
Hmm, I like it. Reaper can offer an earlier start to winning. I think Shipbreaker Kraken
is really fun and I'd like to see him work. . . buuuut, Reaper of the Wilds
fits the deck a lot better.
October 1, 2013 1:27 a.m.
strongwalker says... #9
Opportunity is an instant and so may be a better fit that Divination .
Omenspeaker is a decent early blocker with a relevant effect as well.
Maybe consider a Cyclonic Rift over one Golgari Charm ?
October 1, 2013 9:36 a.m.
Ince_Velus says... #10
first off...I have been recommending this EVERYWHERE because this is the mOST overlooked card for post rotation....
Rapid Hybridization ....I MEAN SERIOUSLY LOOK AT THIS CARD! 1 cmc...and against black decks you can 3 CMC a black creature then use Doom Blade to finish it off. or just as a massive Kalonian Hydra is about to hit...nope, its a token
it also does not deal damage so that is nice.I mean, it is a weaker Abrupt Decay but for 1 CMC and pops out a token...
Also you can target your own AEtherling , then bounce him, and as the stack stays you get the 3/3 token...
think about it
October 1, 2013 2:53 p.m.
Sheogorath says... #11
Inces_Velus if you bounce the aetherling then the rapid hybridization would have no target so therefore would have no effect, including no token.
October 1, 2013 5:14 p.m.
TEGHabibird says... #12
Sheogorath is correct but for the wrong reason. If you bounce your aetherling, the spell has no target but it is countered because you aren't the controller of any instance of that aetherling.
If for example, you targeted your own Rakdos Cackler then your opponent responds with Dark Betrayal
Rakdos Cackler is destroyed by Dark Betrayal
Rapid Hybridization has no target. You are still the controller of that Rakdos Cackler so you'll still get the token.
October 1, 2013 5:59 p.m.
Ince_Velus says... #13
So the AEtherling combo would or would not work? I thought as in response to you targeting the aetherling then you can bounce it and it triggers like so...
October 1, 2013 8:27 p.m.
If it can't resolve you don't get the token, period.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=rapid%20hybridization
"If the creature is an illegal target when Rapid Hybridization tries to resolve, it will be countered and none of its effects will happen. No Frog Lizard token will be created."
October 1, 2013 9:12 p.m.
What about Prophet of Kruphix , seems like it would be decent here.
October 1, 2013 10:10 p.m.
Rapid Hybridization still sounds like a great way to counter a Doom Blade and other spot removal
"Ima kill you're thing now, tap cast"
"No! i'll kill it! tap Rapid Hybridization "
"Aw F***"
October 1, 2013 10:17 p.m.
Tristonlee21 says... #17
Have you thought about adding in Mistcutter Hydra to at least a sideboard against control? Blue will have problems with it as is. It could be something to surprise attack or defend with? Flash, cant be countered, and protection from blue would be nice. Especially something you could use quickly to defend against Blood Baron since its pro black and also Obzedat. Also seeing Desecration Demon as another common addition. All whom are staples to control decks. I definitely dig your deck and im very interested in trying out something similiar to this at FNM. Very hard for none BUG control decks to deal with. I very rarely ever see BUG being mentioned or played so this deck may in fact be a force to be reckoned with. I definitely look to see what else could be played to help out against most matchups. Good job indeed.
October 1, 2013 11:39 p.m.
Tristonlee21 says... #18
I also highly recommend taking out Doom Blade and replacing with Hero's Downfall. Having the option to destroy planewalkers and any type of creature is definitely worth it in the end. Doom blade should at least be a 2 of in sideboard though.
October 1, 2013 11:42 p.m.
TEGHabibird says... #19
Hero's Downfall works great here because this deck has no real aggro elements. You need some way to counter planes walkers and instant speed destruction is perfect for it.
October 2, 2013 12:15 a.m.
Tristonlee21 says... #20
Where exactly do you stand as far as having Thoughtseize as a sideboard? I know it's a great card, but what's your take on Duress? I feel Duress is a very overlooked card and you already have plenty of creature removal as is. Duress can still remove Planeswalkers, Artifacts, and Enchantments, as well as spells, but that should be more than enough. Against Blue control the only time Thoughtseize would even be beneficial is start of game or when they tap out (Which a good player very rarely needs to) It may end up just being a wasted card for 2 life in the end.
October 2, 2013 12:35 a.m.
chandlerwrx06 says... #21
Prophet of Kruphix isnt in here just because of her CMC, I dont ramp up quickly and yes she would be great to untap at all upkeeps but, I shouldnt need it and shes an easy removal spell away from being useless. Mistcutter Hydra may get sideboarded in against blue. I do really like the idea, but probably only a 2x.
As far as Thoughtseize it is a great card, and yes Duress still gets rid of a lot of things. .its something i will have to think about as the meta progresses. Valid suggestion Tristonlee21
I have the Hero's Downfall sideboarded for walker heavy decks, im weary of mainboarding them.
Rapid Hybridization is a great card its a lot like Pongify was, and I do like turning a Kalonian Hydra into a 3/3. also it makes it really easy to Gaze of Granite the board when instead of a 5 cmc card there is a token. another idea to toy with thanks!
October 2, 2013 1:28 a.m.
jimaejackel says... #22
so many instants, can't you find it in your heart to add Deathrite Shaman ?
do you really need 3 Gaze of Granite when you have 12 creature desrutction, 3 bounce, and 3 -1/-1 Golgari Charm ?
October 2, 2013 6:59 a.m.
chandlerwrx06 says... #23
I had Deathrite Shaman
in it believe it or not in a previous version. . . he get SOOO much hate. I was never able to really utilize him fully. And as far as the 3x Gaze of Granite
yeeaahh, I really hate things on my board. Also gaze removes permanents so its an additional protection/ answer to enchantments, aritfacts, and walkers. I have never had a boardwipe in my hand and not been happy, I have however needed one and running lower than three. . . is iffy to me. I like knowing chances are I should see one a game.
October 2, 2013 7:27 a.m.
Ince_Velus says... #24
I feel there is a better card than Reaper of the Wilds as your other 2 creatures...she is good but really only swings as a 4/5 and has the chance to hexproof...the deathtouch is not the best as she does not have trample (I see the whole scry part, but if you kill 3 creatures in the same turn and like the top card that triple scry is useless....)
There are not mana G/B creatures to replace, but maybe just find a better overall card? I run Obzedat, Ghost Council and Whip of Erebos in my deck and that usually works well
October 2, 2013 12:48 p.m.
Tristonlee21 says... #25
Reaper of the Wilds is a solid play. Outside of Mistcutter Hydra due to the fact it still can block Blood Baron and others. Its an instant block kill and swing with haste next turn. Quick and effective way to surprise your opponent. Hexproof stalls out opponent hands for when looking to drop target spells leavin more counterspells in hand rather than having to play defensive to keep alive. Golgari Charm also is good for protecting against anything able to kill Reaper. Reaper has good utility which this decks thrives from. He is running BUG so Obzedat clearly isnt a viable option. What do you recommend for creature presence in replace of Reaper. Not mentioning Baron, Obzedat, and Desecration Demon?
Nivs_Apprentice97 says... #1
I wan't to say that you should add more creatures, but it seems like you got enough control spells for days. I wouldn't want to go against it in a tournament but I think you did good with it. Thumbs up for the deck and the name.
September 29, 2013 11:29 a.m.