Bogles: Underrated?
Modern Deck Help forum
Posted on Nov. 25, 2015, 12:55 p.m. by Bovine073
I was recently trying out this Bogles (Aura Hexproof) and was wondering if it seems to be really overrated. I was thinking this because it is able to absolutely hate upon EVERY SINGLE OTHER MODERN DECK using both the MB and SB (also no one SB's against it).
So is there something I am missing or does Bogles really seem to be underrated?
(Deck: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-11th-plague-of-the-multiverse/ ).
AndWelcomeToTheJam says... #3
Bogles just folds completely to early hand hate. It has no practical form of recursion available. A Turn 1 Thoughtseize or Inquisition of Kozilek could result in a scoop right then and there. As a result, it is to some extent weak to practically every Modern deck with Black in it (which is a ton).
Also, several decks can and in fact do sideboard for Bogles rather easily in the form of Spellskite; it your spell can't target your creatures, then you're just left with a hexproof 1/1.
November 25, 2015 2:21 p.m.
AndWelcomeToTheJam says... #4
I run a B/W Tokens list in Modern, and Engineered Explosives, Nevermore, and Sundering Growth are all sideboard cards I run that have an effect on Bogles. I believe the major problem with it being lower-tier in the meta is its glass cannon-ness(?). Your perfect hand is something like 2 creatures, 2 lands, 3 Auras. If you don't have that ratio or pretty close to it, you're almost forced to mulligan. Your only source of defense is Hexproof and Totem armor. And there's almost no coming back from a wipe. In short, if it ain't perfect, it ain't working.
November 25, 2015 2:34 p.m.
wwhitegoldd says... #5
What if bogles main boarded Leyline of Sanctity? It stops hand disrution, lili, and makes the burn match up near unloseable.
November 25, 2015 3:03 p.m.
Well, now you're sacrificing speed and introducing a potential dead card into game 1. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
November 25, 2015 3:11 p.m.
wwhitegoldd says... #7
I don't know about that. Bogles seems to have a couple flex spots to me. And 2-3 leyline in some of those spots doesn't seem like it would hurt it. It would also open up some side board slots.
November 25, 2015 4:08 p.m.
Wizard_of_the_Broke says... #8
All of the above is right. Bogles is really weak and nobody even bothers to think about it. So it actually might be prime fodder for a re-tool. I've never played the deck, but always thought it might have more staying power if it ran Invisible Stalker and a UG-Infect-like counterspell package. But that is completely speculative. That idea also probably just highlights the fact that Infect is way better.
November 25, 2015 4:30 p.m.
Boggles is great for an FNM. I've watched it consistently win at FNMs because nobody is really prepared for it and people playing Boggles usually understand what hand to keep. It's not really a deck you can interact with very well and those are the worst ones to play against. You basically just watch them make something big and kill you on Turn 3.
However as others have said - sustained play will set you up for eventually getting screwed by your deck. But you may just get lucky. Who knows.
November 25, 2015 5:01 p.m.
Well, yeah. It's also a rather easy deck to pilot. Burn, infect, bogles, and budget control lists are shop staples.
November 25, 2015 5:44 p.m.
Twin counts to four. Counterspells for days. Cryptic Command laughs at enchanted creatures.
November 26, 2015 9:40 p.m.
And the tapdown from Deceiver Exarch.
They just stall you till combo. Like they do with everybody else.
Which is why pillow forts and Suppression Field are sideboard staples.
November 26, 2015 9:43 p.m.
Hallowed_Titan says... #15
I don't think it's underrated. I tend to always try for enchantment hate of some sort in my SBs mainly because boggles. Although I think adding blue would help boggles....or maybe that means play infect?
November 29, 2015 3:38 p.m.
AndWelcomeToTheJam says... #16
Yeah, Infect does pretty much exactly what Bogles does in half the time. The one major advantage Bogles has is its resistance to common removal spells like Lightning Bolt, Path to Exile, and Dismember. Bogles' highest-potential creature, Kor Spiritdancer, does not have this resistance and usually gets killed immediately with all the removal spells stuck in the opponent's hand. Therefore it more often than not ends up being a dead play once it drops.
November 30, 2015 7:15 a.m.
ComradeJim270 says... #17
It's not terrible and can win some games, but it's a glass cannon. It's a perfectly servicable deck for someone who just wants to start playing Modern FNMs and can catch people off-guard, but it's very vulnerable to hate and prone to getting unplayable hands. Trying to shore up these weaknesses dilutes the power of the deck.
Arvail says... #2
Bogles is magistrurbation. When you draw into a poor hand, you will straight up lose the game. In tournament settings where you're expected to play a ton to get to the finals, that's not exactly ideal. Also, both twin and jund are matchups that boggles has historically struggled against and they are pretty prevalent atm.
November 25, 2015 1:06 p.m.