Mono-Red Burn
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Posted on July 30, 2018, 9:36 p.m. by ArchonBlue
I finished my Control deck and want to start playing Burn! I'd appreciate any feedback on this list, which I'm hoping to build in paper within the next month or so. Also I may settle with a temporary budget substitute for Goblin Guide considering he reperesents about half the cost of the deck by himself. I was thinking maybe Spark Elemental? Let me know what you think! Deck is below. Mono Red Burn
Rusty_Shackleford says... #3
Goblin Guide is pretty hard to replace. He represents potentially 6-8 damage over the course of a game for a single red mana, plus his "downside" is really neutral or upside because you get a lot of information. I'm not sure he can really be replaced.
July 31, 2018 4:20 p.m.
If you don't have Goblin Guides, Foundry Street Denizen can get a lot of damage in, especially if you combine it with token generators.
Devastating Summons is also a good finisher. Sometimes you just get the nuts where you curve out, dump your entire hand into play, then make a couple of 4/4s or bigger.
Searing Blaze is another good option, but you may have problems without having fetchlands. However, the reward of it may outweigh the cons of sometimes only having it deal 1 damage. Cutting 2 copies of The Flame of Keld and adding 2 Searing Blaze may give you a good balance.
Since you are playing on a budget, there's a couple of other options to play Burn. You can go goblin-heavy, with more of an 8-Whack build (Reckless Bushwhacker, Goblin Bushwhacker) and also play Goblin Grenade.
One of my friends did a lot of grinding to earn packs/store credit to upgrade his Burn deck over time. I think he also was using Brute Force, Rubblebelt Maaka, Titan's Strength, and heroic cards for a while too.
Ramunap Ruins can provide your Grim Lavamancers with graveyard food.
July 31, 2018 6:33 p.m.
DOGxOFxWAR says... #6
Id prefer Exquisite Firecraft in Main Board,Decent card. And I think Vexing Devil is a great card all around.
August 1, 2018 12:03 p.m.
Why would you spend $40 on 4x Vexing Devils if you could buy 2x Goblin Guides? Vexing Devil is awful. It gives your opponent something to use their Fatal Push on.
August 1, 2018 4:46 p.m.
ArchonBlue says... #9
I agree with sylvannos that Goblin Guide is strictly better than Vexing Devil and I probably won't build the deck without GG despite the cost. I also agree that 4 copies of the The Flame of Keld may be overkill but I am not sure what to replace them with, Searing Blaze seems pretty unimpressive in a deck with 18 basics.
I think a 2-2 or 3-1 split between The Flame of Keld and something else would be good, but I'm not sure what to put in. Flames of the Blood Hand comes to mind, as does Burst Lightning, Rampaging Ferocidon, Incinerate, or Bomat Courier. I don't know, what do you guys think?
August 1, 2018 6:29 p.m.
Rusty_Shackleford says... #10
I think any The Flame of.Keld is overkill.
Think of it like this: you empty your hand and then play this instead of the burn spell you could've had instead--you just mini Time Walked yourself.
Next turn you draw 2 extra cards--maybe they're gas, maybe they're not. Either way, you're probably spending another turn not playing a burn spell because you're ostensibly trying to get the Chapter 3 payoff. God forbid both of those extra cards are lands, becauSe Flame doesn't actually do any damage on its own. This is also assuming that your opponent doesn't somehow deal with Flame before one or both of the payoff chapters.
Simply put, Flame is not a very good card in this type of deck. You're better off just running four more burn spells, even if you're scraping the bottom of the barrel a bit at this point.
August 1, 2018 9:30 p.m. Edited.
Rusty_shackelford I'm a little jealous I didn't think to use that name
clayperce says... #2
Disclaimer: Not a Burn player, so I've no idea of the best Guide alternative for your deck/budget/meta. But I wanted to mention that Vexing Devil and Hellspark Elemental have seen the most play in the past.
Also, if you haven't already, you might want to post your deck for comments at r/LavaSpike on Reddit or at the Burn forum on MTGsalvation too.
July 31, 2018 12:04 a.m.