2nd best burn spell ever?
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Posted on June 14, 2015, 5:40 p.m. by CheeseBro
What do you guys think is the 2nd best burn spell ever? (Lightning Bolt being the best one)
Here is a list of cards users have suggested and are candidates:
thunderous wrath, i use lava jet to help me thanks to scry 25 damage for 1 mana, often i have chandra in play so i can replay that for free = 10 damage
June 14, 2015 5:50 p.m.
how 25 damage? Which chandra?
Thunderous Wrath is good, but not that good.
Fireblast is a very good card. 4 free damage is great, but i dont like that you have to sac 2 mounatins for it. I will put it on the list.
June 14, 2015 5:54 p.m.
ok thanks Epochalyptik! I wasnt sure about what forum it fit under. What do you think is the 2nd best burn spell ever?
June 14, 2015 6 p.m.
Sorry my keyboard missed the "space"it wasi use lava jet to help me thanks to scry 2, 5 damage for 1 mana"with chandra firebrand i do 10 damage with the -2or the finisher of the pyromaster chandra is 15 damage.is good if you put like 2 of them
June 14, 2015 6:03 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #12
Fireblast is a very strong contender for second place. I guess it really depends on what you need to do and what you're playing. Many secondary burn spells (i.e., those that aren't Lightning Bolt) have some kind of extra effect or condition to them. For example, Galvanic Blast is potentially more powerful than Lightning Bolt, but isn't as viable in nearly as many decks.
June 14, 2015 6:05 p.m.
TurboFagoot says... #13
Fireblast, Price of Progress, Chain Lightning, etc.
Chain Lightning if you're looking for a card as ubiquitously good as Lightning Bolt.
Fireblast if you're looking for a card that is the best in dedicated burn decks.
Price of Progress depending on the format/meta.
June 14, 2015 6:15 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #14
Totally forgot about Price of Progress. Good pick.
June 14, 2015 6:20 p.m. Edited.
AwesomeName says... #17
I'm no pro, but I would say that Lightning Helix is a pretty good card.
June 14, 2015 6:52 p.m.
I mean, its clearly Hornet Sting!!! Its soooo good!!! /sarcasm
June 14, 2015 6:53 p.m.
its nit pure burn but Electrolyze is awesome and if your looking for something like lightningbolt you got Shock and Incinerate
June 14, 2015 7:02 p.m.
theres also Flame Slash i cant think of anything more efficient
June 14, 2015 7:05 p.m.
AwesomeName says... #22
@CheeseBro, Hornet Sting actually isn't that terrible because it is a mono-green burn spell, which green only has a few of.
June 14, 2015 7:07 p.m. Edited.
Being green doesn't make it any less terrible. It's still just as unplayable as if it were red.
June 14, 2015 7:27 p.m.
AwesomeName says... #24
@xlaleclx, I am saying that it is justified because green is not the burn color, red is. So when green actually has a burn spell, it will come nowhere near close to red burn spells. I think you are misreading what I am saying as that Hornet Sting is good. It is not, but I am explaining that it is intentionally bad. If Hornet Sting did any more damage, it would break the color pie.
June 14, 2015 7:39 p.m.
Please laets stay on topic here.
Also, thoughts on Pyrokinesis?
June 14, 2015 7:40 p.m.
AwesomeName says... #26
June 14, 2015 7:51 p.m.
thoughts on the current list everyone? Any cards you think should not be there?
June 14, 2015 8:05 p.m.
Flame Slash and Pyrokinesis shouldn't be on that list. Pyroclasm isn't even a burn spell.
Flame Rift should be on the list over flame slash or pyrokenesis.
June 14, 2015 8:35 p.m.
ok i will add Flame Rift over Pyroclasm. What is wrong with Flame Slash and Pyrokinesis?
June 14, 2015 8:52 p.m.
They both only target creatures. Flame slash is fairly mediocre and pyrokinesis is unplayable.
June 14, 2015 8:58 p.m.
Pyrokinesis is just like Fireblast. It is 4 free damage, just divided between creatures instead of to 1 creature or player. also, Flame Slash is amazing.
June 14, 2015 9:02 p.m.
Pyrokinesis requires you to have another red card in hand to exile to it. What deck are you playing this in? A burn deck where you're exiling a burn spell that would have been better just sent at the opponents face?
Pyrokinesis isn't even close to being similar to fireblast. Fireblast requires you to sacrifice mountains which lets you close out games as burn when losing a couple mountains is almost never relevant. Pyrokinesis requires you to 2 for 1 yourself to even be able to cast the spell.
June 14, 2015 9:09 p.m.
AwesomeName says... #35
@CheeseBro, Skred is awesome in Skred decks, which run Snow-Covered Mountains and Scrying Sheets to make Skred do a ton of damage.
June 14, 2015 9:15 p.m.
MSU_Iced_Z says... #36
By the Pyrokinesis standard, I nominate Doom Blade. If you can't kill someone with it, it's not the second best burn spell.
June 14, 2015 10:50 p.m.
KillDatBUG says... #37
Fireblast. And honestly, I don't think it's close.
I mean, come on. Lightning Bolt is 3 damage for 1 mana. Price of Progress is 6 damage for 2 mana at its best (the cases in which it does more are rare). Flame Rift is 4 damage for 2 mana.
Fireblast is 4 damage for 0 mana. That rate is better than all the other burn spells listed here. Saccing the two mountains is an irrelevant cost compared to getting to deal 4 damage for free.
June 15, 2015 2:40 a.m.
biggestmtgnerd says... #38
Fireblast probably. Would Goblin Guide count? It's pretty much a repeatable Shock.
June 15, 2015 6:30 a.m.
SwaggyMcSwagglepants says... #39
Either Fireblast or Pyrokinesis. The latter can only hit creatures, but it's much more likely to hit creatures with burn in general than players. And fireblast makes you sac 2 mountains, which is a real cost. It can set you behind by a big amount. There is arguments on each side.
June 15, 2015 3:39 p.m.
You play fireblast to close out a game though. You need to actually play with the card to understand it.
MSU_Iced_Z says... #2
Fireblast. 4 damage, zero mana. gg
June 14, 2015 5:47 p.m.