The Sidisi Brood Tyrant list you have there has apperently been updated A Banquet Fit For A Tyrant: Food Chain SBT Primerto a different more food chain oriented deck, if it is better or not is up to you I guess

Lol, a quadruple post. That's a new one.

Where is Hakim, Loreweaver on that list?

mini_fan He's right there in Tier 5.

Human_Wizard, oh.. Well, he could do better.

Brassmoose I am opposed to switching the sidisi list, While the addition of three different wincons helped food chain sidisi alot, they all circle around Dread Return, meaning if it gets exiled you lose, this, plus white just makes Tazri a better sidisi.
the current list, on the other hand, trades a little bit of consistency for a variety of different angles of attack, allowing for quick wins and the ability to adjust to various stax effects.

ajacobik I am against bumping Erebos, I feel the list simply does not have enough stax and answers to even make it to the midgame, the decklist is good though and I wouldn't be opposed to making that the example T3 list

chaosumbreon87 I'm against Phaldagriff, cute and funny but I can't see it becoming competitive

Lilbrudder yah, shapersavant could probably be tier 2.5, just wish the list was a little more optimized, all the same I'm in favor.

Trtl on the Dralnu submission, Lilbrudder left a comment on the deck page that pretty much sums it up.

Sorry, I've been meaning to post my thoughts on all these lits, finally got around to it

still looking for thoughts on Kokusho, I've added the liches, more testing will see if they stay but they're undeniably powerful

Lilbrudder, Gates88, re: Breya Tier 1? Sorry I'm a few days late on this...

But, yeah, I dunno, Breya feels at times like a Tier 1 deck, at times like Tier 1.5. I think you're right that essentially any deck w/o green can't be as fast as a deck w/green, since there's just so many more turn-1 accellerants available to green. Also, the Breya combos are a little fragile; so I always want to go off with protection. These two points have lead me toward a "protected combo deck," where I run a few roadblocks for other decks (like pyroclasm or ethersworn canonist) and a lot of cheap interaction. The goal is usually to stop the first player's combo, kill all the mana elves, and then assemble a combo on turn 5 that's well-protected. Is it tier-1? Maybe, it compares well against Karador, Tazri and Teferi which are played heavily in my meta; it still seems worse than Zur; is it better than Thrasios? IDK, haven't seen the paradox engine version, and that hermit druid build looks... fragile?

Recently changed my username, I would appreciate it if NarejED or thegigibeast could change my username in the description from AzamiLadyofScrolls to Human_Wizard.

mmcgeach: I agree with everything you said about Breya. She is so close to that top tier and a favorable printing will likely get her there. I love her tutor density, removal options, and the mana efficiency of her combos. She has alot of potential to grow in power level.

Brassmoose: I requested a change over a while ago but it is no biggie. Both decks offer something different and you can easily view the FC one from the main primer, but I really should restore the one listed to its pre Walking Ballista state so the deck is functional.

Dunadain: I go back and forth about Sidisi and her strongest build but I think the focused nature of one primary combo helps free up more slots, which sidisi badly needs and was the downfall of the combo blitzkrieg approach. I must point out that the food chain combo is somewhat more robust than many people are claiming. Once we get food chain to hand I can fairly consistently use tainted pact/demonic consultation/plunge into darkness to get an outlet to hand too and misthollow griffin/eternal scourge to exile. The deck also does not autofold to Dread Return being countered. If we have Eternal Witness in hand that will also get us there and we always have the memory's journey fallback plan if one desires additional protection than my build is using. Also with the labman tainted pact/demonic consultation combo we have an alternative path to victory if food chain is a nobo and we have the wheel+notion thief shenanighans to proactively protect both combos. In short, its not a one trick pony even if its clearly worse than Tazri. As for your build ill give it a look and offer what assistance I can.

@Human_Wizard: Your name has been updated. I miss the old one already. :(

NarejED Haha sorry. I want to branch out and build other decks, so I figured I'd rename my account. My next build is gonna be my own take on Zur Ad Naus Doomsday. It's okay though cause I still own the AzamiLadyofScrolls account.

What's the diffrence between tier 1 and 1.5?

So, most people agree that Brainstorm, Ponder, and Preordain are the best cantrips for cEDH, but I've come to playing with the last few slots in my deck and I feel that I'd benefit from another cantrip. I want to hear the community's input on Sleight of Hand vs. Serum Visions. I'm aware they are both solid in their on ways and can be situation dependent as to which one is stronger. I would just like to hear people's thoughts on both so I can make a more educated decision.

Human_Wizard: are you running Impulse? (I'm not sure which of your decks you're talking about). there's also Anticipate which costs 2 mana but is instant speed.

enpc I linked my deck in the comment. I am running Impulse in the deck already. I wanted people's opinions for Serum Visions vs. Sleight of Hand for additional 1 mana cantrips. I think I know that I want to go with Serum Visions, but I'm not entirely sure considering I've seen several cEDH lists that run Sleight of Hand and not Serum Visions.

I think Sleight is better, cause who wants to wait for that scry's impact?

MagicalHackerThat's the one advantage of Sleight of Hand that I like. I like Visions too though because it can dig to an extent and it can set up land drops for early turns if need be.

Human_Wizard: ahh my bad, missed the link. Since you're a control deck, why not Gitaxian Probe instead? There's also Peek and Opt which a lot of people forget about.

enpc I actually don't consider this to be "control". It's really more of a mid-range / combo strategy.

Human_Wizard: ~15 counterspells + additional removal on top of that. It may win via combo (don't most competitive decks?), but it sure looks like a control deck to me :P

enpc Just because a deck runs a decent amount of counter magic and removal doesn't mean it's control. Hell, by that logic Zur Ad Naus Doomsday Combo is a control deck too. The featured Zur list runs 10 counterspells and has aditional removal. The deck pace of Azami is much more mid range than she is "control". Yes, she plays spells that interact with others and she has spells that are associated with control. The archetype of a deck isn't just the spells that constitute the deck it's the way in which you pilot it and build your board. A lot of people consider Azami to be a mid-range / combo general not just me, but what do I know? I only have the highest rated Azami deck here :P

Well clearly that touched a nerve... I'm not interested in gettig into a pissing contest here. Let me rephrase - you run a lot of control effects in your midrange combo deck. Gitaxian Probe-like effects might be of some use. Just a thought.

enpc I just wanted to be cheeky and use the ":P" while saying something savage to prove my point. I'm really not pissed honestly, haha. I understand the misconception, but I simply don't see Azami as the control archetype. I do however appreciate your input. Git probe is an excellent card, but I don't think it's what I'm looking for at the moment.

Human_Wizard: all good. I'm not here to try and start fight. That being said, I would recommand having a look at this, this and this. As far as the term "midrange" goes, it is a specific deck archetype in at least modern, so that's why we have differning opinions about the definition. Just worth knowing.

I would also personally rate Opt over Serum Visions since while it's an instant and ywhile it's only scry 1, you do it prior to card draw, but if you're after digging power then visiosn will be your next best. Also, why don't yo urun Fabricate? It seems really good with Paradox Engine.

I can confirm what enpc is saying with Fabricate. It does very good work in my 4 color engine list with access to black tutors and enlightened tutor, so I cannot imagine any reason it is not good enough for mono blue. It would be significantly more useful than any of the relatively meh cantrips you are considering, although I can imagine that you want the cantrips for the early game fixing. In my experience the higher quality card in a position of need is generally better than scraping the bottom of the barrel for a different effect. Then again I dont play mono blue so forgive me if I am showing my ignorance. I also love Gitaxian Probe with engine as getting that initial untap is huge. Any "free" spell instantly becomes very good. Hell I am even considering playing Astral Cornucopia due to how great of an effect that 0 cost spell can be.