TheDevicer: Seriously wtf...Vela the Night-Clad also works and to the best of my knowledge noone (including myself) has ever tried it. Lol this game never ceases to suprise me. Good call! I have been toiling so much harder than necessary with this damn combo. Since the wording is leave the battlefield and not dies the food chain combo itself will trigger vela infinitely. Her being high cc is actually ok too because it helps necrotic ooze combo, which I feel is the ideal backup combo to food chain for sidisi.

Correction: Now that SBT has 2 food chain outlets she is by far the fasest BUG combo general

Guys guys hear me out.

Storm Crow + Food Chain --> Shaman of Forgotten Ways + Scornful Egotist + Necrotic Ooze

Does anyone have any news about Yidris? I have not come across him since he released. Does the deck rely on him at all, or is he like Jeleva? How is the green affecting the deck? Will these questions ever truly be answered? The world may never know.

Yidris is basically figured out since it's just storm + green, but yes, Yidris is way more useful to the deck than Jeleva.

If you're running just 3 to 5 haste granters you can pause mid storm turn, sink all your mana into on the board sources, and go to combat to get a cascade trigger for your second main, which is way better than Jeleva's combat trigger.

I wasn't familiar with Nath Stax when I took the poll a few days ago, and so abstained from voting on that question, but after playing ~8 matches with him against Tier 1 decks, it seems pretty reasonable to conclude he's at least a solid Tier 2.

I'd have to say, one of the prime examples of G cards that you want with Yidris is Noxious Revival, respond to the cascade trigger to get a specific card cast.

Yeah. Sidise with Kozilek can food chain with Vela dreaded. Alternatively, you can Basalt Monolith + Mesmeric orb to Dread return Gravespawn Sovereign to Res Vela and Viscera Seer or something.

Thank you for curing me of my ignorance :-)

I stumbled upon this maelstrom wanderer list. I dont know much about wanderer but it looks pretty good.

Maelstrom Wanderer Combo

Commander / EDH* Enderkr

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Here is my maelstrom wanderer list, please consider it: Then do it again

I didn't realize that Vela was a leaves the battlefield trigger, I thought it was just a death trigger. In that case, not only will it work, but it's probably also the best win condition for Sidisi.

Lilbrudder Its great to have both ballista and vela available but plugging both in may not be ideal. I'd stick with just ballista as its easy to get it to the yard if stuck in hand and has some utility outside of the combo. Vela is dead in hand.

Very true but it actually saves several card slots. I am thinking of dropping HD combo with sidisi because it takes up 8 slots and is fairly glass cannon for BUG. That leaves me with necrotic ooze and food chain, which both need ballista to work. I have a way to get it back from exile but unless I want to run a barebones package of labman deep analysis and memorys journey the deck can be broken if one card gets taken out. Vela is a dead card but I prefer one dead card to three mostly dead cards.

Labman is a suboptimal finisher for sidisi food chain and is graveyard dependent. There is tainted pact but I dislike the other 3 cards enough to avoid adding it. With vela and ballista I have a much better chance of ensuring one is in my hand if I am locked out of my graveyard so I can just 3 card with food chain and avoid the self mill altogether. I was sort of considering adding altar of dementia but this is way better

Quick PSA: Generally if a deck has an average CMC over 3, it's not an optimized/competitive list. It's one of the first things I look at when examining any deck list. A high curve means slow starts and lots of dead cards in hand. A lot of the decks I'm seeing linked have extremely high curves, which usually instantly rule them out for use.

That being said, that looks like a really solid decklist @_person_. Added!

So, working on an optimized Feldon and I think I've settled on two combos and would like to know if anyone had thoughts.

So considering Feldon is a reanimator I'm going to use mostly creature based combos.

1.) Kiki + Zealous. With Feldon's ability it's easy to just "during end step" zealous and steal a Ghostly Prison, then untap and activate Feldon for Kiki and go off. Requires setup but that's not as hard as it sounds due to the number of draw and discard effects.

2.) Dualcaster, dualcaster is good value in Feldon because you can reanimate it to counter a counter or copy something like Tooth and Nail to go off before someone else. Etc. the other part of the dualcaster combo is Twinflame and Heat Shimmer, these have to be in hand which is a bit of a bummer but with 2 it shouldn't be too hard. Target Feldon, animate dualcaster, infinite dualcasters.

To go along with these I plan on running Purphoros, God of the Forge and Altar of Dementia, you can Altar yourself early game to get the engines online and later you can Altar everyone out of the game if you can't attack with infinite guys.

Any thoughts on these?

I think Kiki Zealous might be more consistent to assemble since you would need to wait for twinflame or heat shimmer for dualcaster. Dualcaster itself isnt a bad choice by itself imo.

Can we get a comment reset every like 400 comments or so? just a thought.

I think i have an optimized but untested chainer deck to replace the one above. If someone can look it over for things I missed or better ways to optimize, that would be great. Thanks in advance. I don't have a primer yet.

Sleep tight

Commander / EDH* chaosumbreon87

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I figured that twinflame and heatshimmer could be used without dualcaster as ways to copy things like Bedlam reveler and it can also be used to "untap" Feldon if you were willing to sac the original.

tw0handt0uch: I was thinking after I replied to you that it would be better to show you my thought process on the new deck instead of writing a reply. Since you were the original creator of food chain tazri, I would love your feedback. Here is the new prototype: Food chain+Nooze prototype

NarejED ok I revamped my Zedruu the Greathearted deck with cards I actually acquired. I am submitting it again for the tier 3 zedruu spot. Zedr(YOU), Zed(WHAT). (this deck is everything I own in paper)

Average CMC is 3.06. Relatively low for a zedruu deck. I could make it lower, but it takes out some key lock pieces I did get the suggestions you said earlier as well as some of the ones I already planned on inserting.

Like I said earlier. This deck has been tested against tier 1 and 2 decks as there are a few in my meta.

I know I am missing key lands (Arid Mesa, Scalding Tarn, Tundra, Volcanic Island.

Beyond that, I feel like it is complete. Any extra advice please let me know. Or PM me.

I put it up for voting.

Quick question: Why do decks like Tazri Food Chain not jam like Boonweaver combo, or Hermit Druid combo? Does it actually decrease the efficiency of the overall deck? I would think by having two combo options, the deck would improve its speed.

Hd and boonweaver both take too many slots. So unless your deck is devoted to either plan, it is not worth it jamming in either one. One can bring the other sometimes

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Lets say you have 3x 2-card combos in your deck. There is some probablility you will have 1x card from combo A and 1x from combo C and you are holding both of them doing nothing. Now lets replace all cards from combos B and C with tutors. Now any of 2 of the 6 cards make a 2-card combo bc you can tutor the missing piece. Likewise if you only have 1 card of the 6, it would never be useful but if it is a tutor, you could tutor Toxic Deluge, or Timetwister, or C Rift or whatever to get back in the game. You balance this efficiency vs the risk of getting gone if your 2 pieces exiled. That is why most decks with only 1 primary combo will include Riftsweeper and/or Pull from eternity. Obviously this is simplified, but hopefully you take the point.

You could potentially add something like splinter twin to a combo like food chain tazri because it is relatively compact and FC and Twin share most of the same tutors. Ive done something similar with boonweaver and splinter twin and its not bad since you just need 2 card slots to have a really fast alternative win condition. However, given how many enablers Tazri has for FC it probably doesnt improve the deck much and it may make it worse since double red stretches the mana base badly.

I am very confused as to how sliver queen can be higher rank than overlord, since you can just tutor up queen with overlord :/

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