Izzet Instant Death

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Criticism Appreciated —Dec. 17, 2013

Thanks to some good suggestions, made a couple changes (for the better I think). Started up a sideboard, took out the Ordeal of Thassa, and threw in 4 Mizzium Skin (I think I should put more but time will tell). Also threw in 4 Steam Vents to satisfy. I already knew they're better than gates in every way, but they're too expensive to be realistic and I will never get them (scry lands on the other hand...). I haven't gotten a lot of these cards yet, but after I get a bit more feedback the trading will begin.

Also the next person to say this deck is budget gets a bowling ball to the nutsack. Take a look at the price tag and tell me that's cheap.

tcomstedt says... #1

I'd consider Magma Jet over Shock . The scry helps a lot.

Also, I have the perfect, perfect card for this deck: Dragonshift . Nobody expects it, the overload gets cheaper with Goblin Electromancer and your Nivix Cyclops keeps the +3/+0 from it, making him a 7/4 flyer. Great combo.

Check out my similar deck for an idea of where I'm coming from That 1/4 is cute... OMG DRAGONS!

December 9, 2013 2:32 p.m.

creelgoe says... #2

If you add Dragonshift , replace Guttersnipe with Young Pyromancer

December 9, 2013 3:04 p.m.

SgtBogo says... #3

@ tcomstedt Really great idea, I'm definitely going to look into 2-4 Dragonshift . Probably lose Mugging to put them in. As for Magma Jet , I have considered it, but I don't think the scry is really worth the extra mana.

@ creelgoe Don't really think the Young Pyromancer is very suiting. It only really works if I decide to overload Dragonshift , which isn't likely to happen anyways due to mana being short. Other than that, Guttersnipe is one of my main win cons and has proven pretty damn useful.

On another note, I'm thinking of dropping 1 or 2 Goblin Electromancer as I don't really need more than -1 from my mana costs and it should be fairly likely to draw one with one or two in the deck. I'm just unsure of what I would replace it with.

December 9, 2013 4:53 p.m.

salthug says... #4

I am Loking ad your deck and think i got a few tips/questions.Do you realy need Goblin Electromancer because the instance/sorcery cards you play are already cheap.

With the overload exception of Cyclonic Rift and Mizzium Mortars .

I would ditch them for a other Guttersnipe and a other Young Pyromancer .

And do you attack enouch for the Ordeal of Thassa and Aqueous Form .

I am i am guessing you play Aqueous Form for its scry i would play Thassa, God of the Sea instead.

I also wander if 18 mana will cut it.23 would be more succesfull in my eyes.

Ditch the 2 ordeals the Steam Augury and 1 more card if needed.

I play Izzet enough to know mana f***ed is more devastating to izzet then other guilds.

Hope you like my tips and have fun playing Magic.

December 15, 2013 5:54 p.m.

SgtBogo says... #5

Thanks for the suggestions @salthug

I'm definitely going to keep the Goblin Electromancer , they allow me to go lower on my lands and not have to worry as much, but even so I think a few more lands would definitely be a good call. I'm thinking around 20-21.

Keeping the Ordeal of Thassa and Aqueous Form has totally been working for me so far. With a playlet of Spellheart Chimera to mess with, I've just been buffing him like crazy and scrying every turn, plus when I get to sac the ordeal I get 2 cards (also very helpful)

I think 2 Steam Augury is good, but I am looking to take out 2 Shock for 2 Izzet Charm .

December 16, 2013 1:35 p.m.

duve86 says... #6

In my experiences, Izzet Charm is lackluster. Personally, I think you are better off with 2 more Shock or Lightning Strike . I agree with the ideas that Salthug had. Especially on the ordeals. They don't trigger any of your abilities.

I have created my own deck similar to this that is able to stand toe to toe with Mono black and Esper. It is here: CounterBurn

December 16, 2013 8:19 p.m.

BigBearinIt says... #7

I run a deck similar to this for Izzet. However, here's what I would suggest:

  1. Get rid of Ordeal of Thassa and Aqueous Form . The Ordeal isn't doing much good if you can't attack at someone, and against higher end decks, you won't be attacking often with anything you have here. As for Aqueous, that may prevent someone from being blocked...but it won't prevent someone from getting destroyed, burned, or exiled. Instead, I would suggest throwing in 4x Mizzium Skin . This will give you hexproof capability with overload as well as buffing up Spellheart Chimera 's ass to keep it from potentially getting blocked to death. Moreover, it's another instant, so you'll see more elementals come out from Pyromancer.

  2. Take out the Goblin Electromancer and throw in Master of Waves as a way to get pro red as well as a buff to all those elementals that can be spawned with Young Pyromancer .

  3. Get shock lands rather than guildgates. While guildgates are cheap and easy to get, they can set you back when it comes to a deck like this. Steam Vents are worth the investment.

  4. Trade Dissolve for Syncopate . While it doesn't give you the search with scry, it does offer a much better solution for countering a spell.

  5. Drop the 2x Skullcrack for 2x Lightning Strike . In turn, run Skullcrack as a sideboard card. It's very situational. Lightning Strike gives your deck a lot more options.

  6. Ral Zarek is some cool stuff, but in all honesty, you don't have a lot of creatures to block him from getting smashed before he can do a lot of good. In turn, I would consider dropping both of them and putting Thassa, God of the Sea into the deck as a way to have an indestructible that can block something coming in. If you don't want to go for Master of Waves and would like to keep the Ral Zarek in, you could always go for replacing Goblin Electromancer with Thassa, God of the Sea .

Those are just some ideas to throw out there. I can't say that I've necessarily playtested that exact setup, as I don't have an Izzet deck with all of that. That's just theorycrafting off the top of my head. I can tell you are trying to keep it all on a budget. I did the best that I could to keep it that way as much as possible.

December 16, 2013 8:31 p.m.

SgtBogo says... #8

Thanks for the suggestions again everyone.

@duve86 I don't really agree with taking out Izzet Charm . It works quite well with Steam Augury (I generally pile 1 good card and 4 ok ones) and it essentially does the same thing as Shock , albeit a bit more expensive. Plus it's a nice cheap counter for annoying enchantments.

@BigBearinIt

  1. I'm pretty dead set with the Ordeal of Thassa and Aqueous Form , but I still have to playtest some more so we'll see. I'm really liking the idea of Mizzium Skin , seems like a nice cheap counter-spell counter with a bit of buff. I'll probably wind up throwing in at least 2 even if I don't wind up taking out Ordeal of Thassa and Aqueous Form . Also, I haven't really been facing too much problems with counters, I think due to the Goblin Electromancer . He lets me play a 2 mana Dissolve and get any sort of destroy target creature shit out of the way.

  2. Not too focused on buffing elementals or even Young Pyromancer much at all. I used to have a few Dragonshift in here and I just wound up not using them. Mostly, the pyromancer just generates me some blockers for either Ral Zarek , Guttersnipe , or just myself while I blast out some burn cards. Goblin Electromancer really helps in that aspect.

  3. Shock lands are an obvious addition, but I think I'm gonna wait around a bit for the Izzet scrublands in Born of the Gods. No sense in spending $20 on lands only to do it again in February.

  4. I was thinking a bit about Syncopate but I wound up deciding against it. Usually I can get a Goblin Electromancer out pretty early (before any threatening spells are even played) and wind up just casting cheap Dissolve . Syncopate always seemed to me to be an early game counter for cheap mana, but I'm not really too worried about mana.

  5. Definitely agreed, good idea.

  6. If I decide to take out the Aqueous Form , I will definitely go for Thassa, God of the Sea . She essentially does the same thing but is indestructible so it sounds like it could work. Also Ral Zarek has been working really great for me lately. I don't use his -3 too much as I already have tons of burn to do it for me but I love his +1. I can use it to open a hole in defense by tapping a big blocker and then if I'm tapped out (I usually am) I can untap a land and prepare to drop down a 1 mana Mizzium Mortars or Lightning Strike the next turn (of course with the help of Goblin Electromancer ).

December 16, 2013 11:58 p.m.