Fistful of Force

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Fistful of Force

Instant

Target creature gets +2/+2 until end of turn. Clash with an opponent. If you win, that creature gets an additional +2/+2 and gains trample until end of turn. (Each clashing player reveals the top card of his or her library, then puts that card on the top or bottom. A player wins if his or her card had a higher converted mana cost.)

DemonDragonJ on Phyrexia: All Will Be One …

1 year ago

TypicalTimmy, that is the clash mechanic, as seen on Broken Ambitions, Fistful of Force, or Lash Out.

Dawson_Von_Darkcastle on Mono G Miracles

6 years ago

some other creature options, if you're interested, could be Charging Badger or Ornithopter.

Charging Badger: any pump spell will almost always go through. Ornithopter: turn 1 flyer w/ any turn 2 pump spell will mean direct damage.

some other pump spells could be Blossoming Defense, Fistful of Force, or Predator's Strike.

Blossoming Defense: a pump spell that tricks your opponent into wasting a removal spell. Predator's Strike: a pump spell that makes any 1/1 hexproof into a 4/4 trample hexproof. Fistful of Force: +2/+2 first, then reveal scry, if you higher cmc, another +2/+2 & trample. this also helps you set up for miracles.

And, since this is an aggressive strategy, may I recommend Fog. since you will attacking each turn, stopping his assault would definitely give you a turn advantage.

also, you seem to be going all pump, but a card like Rancor would be very effective. especially if, somehow, your opponent was able to get rid of your creature.

I hope that this comment can help you in your future builds.

landofMordor on Is the fact that white …

6 years ago

Okay, I'm looking it up in the official rulebook.

You still can't include Flash Conscription in Zada, because color identity.

Here's part of Rule 608.2g. "If an effect requires information from the game (such as the number of creatures on the battlefield), the answer is determined only once, when the effect is applied." This is in the "resolving spells" subsection of rules, which is what your question is about. So let's run through some scenarios to flesh out this rule:

You copy Flash Conscription through Ink-Treader Nephilim. Each copy will determine whether W was paid for that copy before it resolves its effect. The answer will be "no", because you didn't pay any mana for the copies. No lifelink.

The same thing (sadly) applies to copies of Kicker spells like Blood Tribute.

Now, that rule does not apply to involuntary "As an additional cost...", because on spells like Lightning Axe, the spell can't legally be cast unless you pay that non-mana cost. If you were able to copy Lightning Axe a few times without paying its mana cost, you would still have to discard or pay the "additional cost" for each copy as you cast it, since that's an effect outside of the mana cost. Yep, it's depressing.

On the other hand, sometimes the answer to information obtained from the game will be "yes". You cast Go for the Throat on Ink-Treader Nephilim (don't ask me how, and don't ask me why). You also control a Arcbound Worker, a Mortician Beetle, and a Jace, Vryn's Prodigy  Flip. The Worker stays alive, while everybody else dies, because each copy of Go for the Throat obtains information before it resolves. If you were able to flip Jace into a PW, he would also stay alive, since he left the battlefield and is now a "new" permanent. Same thing would happen if you used Liquimetal Coating on Jace before the spell resolved. That same reasoning would also apply to secondary effects on combat tricks, such as Fistful of Force -- if you win the clash each time, everybody gets big.

Now, let's say you control Harness the Storm and have a Flash Conscription in your grave, with 12 mana up (again, don't ask me how). You cast Flash Conscription from your hand, then also cast it from your grave using Harness's ability. Both copies would grant lifelink, since you paid W for each one.

Hope that helps! MtG has some notoriously confusing interactions, so I have asked many a question myself on this forum. Best of luck. Hit me up when you finish building and I'll be glad to look at your decklist.

GracefulDave on Matt Grier Esper Control February 8th 3-1

8 years ago

I have to belive that Fistful of Force is supposed to be a Force of Will or everything I know about deck building is wrong.

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