Fetch Lands reprint
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Posted on Dec. 24, 2013, 8:40 p.m. by Three-Left-Feet
It's common talk (I'm not sure if it's official yet) that Fetch Lands will be reprinted somewhat soon (a guy at my shop said M15, but again, not sure if official).
Is there anything official on this information? And if it'll be released in a non-core set or a core set?
If it's released in a non-core set, I'm wondering about cards like Polluted Delta , Wooded Foothills , and all those Onslaught lands. I really want those reprints!!!!
I heard someone say that Wizards said that all future dual-land cycles will be full 10 card cycles (no more of only printing the allied duals). Can someone find a source for this?
December 24, 2013 8:45 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #4
This is one of the more popular rumors floating around as of late.
I believe WOTC will eventually reprint the fetches. It will probably have to wait until after RTR rotates because the shock+fetch interaction is far too powerful for Standard. I could see ONS fetches coming back within the next five blocks, and I could see ZEN fetches coming back in a MMA 2.0.
December 24, 2013 8:46 p.m.
Three-Left-Feet says... #5
I hope they don't do it that way @Epochalyptik... I agree it's too powerful for standard for a fetch-shock combo, but I'd hope they were all reprinted in block, even if it took 3-5 blocks, you know?
@ChiefBell we're in the same boat man, 100%
@ENEyman They'd have my support on that!!!
December 24, 2013 8:54 p.m.
gnarlicide says... #6
I heard the ONS fetches rumor a while ago. Seems reasonable. I do not think it would be in a core set, though.
December 24, 2013 8:55 p.m.
It wouldn't be absurd to think that they'll come in the next block, after RtR rotates. Or, at least, they could come then.
December 24, 2013 8:56 p.m.
Three-Left-Feet says... #8
I would hope it wouldn't be released in a core set, just because I feel that'd just be stupid... Unless they were ONLY doing allied/enemy fetches.
@ChiefBell I don't think it'd be absurd, I just don't find it likely, ya know? They're not going to be THAT nice to us
December 24, 2013 9:02 p.m.
Wizards have actually been reprinting some good cards recently. We can hold out some hope. (Shocks in RTR, 'Goyf in MMA, Thoughtseize in Theros etc).
December 24, 2013 9:05 p.m.
I don't know... Wizards is supposed to be making Modern cheaper. Reprinting fetches would help that goal considerably, so I can see it happening pretty soon.
December 24, 2013 9:08 p.m.
Unforgivn_II says... #11
It would be intersting for the ONS fetches to be modern legal. I secretly don't want a ONS fetch reprint because I'm holding onto a Windswept Heath I traded for a few months ago, and I want it to increase in price. Then again, playing with it would be nice.
December 24, 2013 9:14 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #12
@Bestach: It's not necessarily true that a reprint would lower costs. It all depends on how the reprints were handled. If ZEN fetches come back in MMA 2.0 (assuming Modern Masters comes back), then the rarity of the reprints and of MMA 2.0 would both factor into what happens in the secondary market. Take, for example, Tarmogoyf and Dark Confidant . Both were reprinted in MMA, and both rose in value as a result. Supply did not meet demand.
December 24, 2013 9:16 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #13
What do you guys think the odds of Wizards reprinting the ZEN fetchlands during s Return to Zendikar type block instead of a MMA 2.0 set are? Or even reprints for both?
December 24, 2013 9:19 p.m.
Three-Left-Feet says... #14
Reprinting Tarmogoyf in MMA upsets me because it didn't lower the price... In fact, before I left the game, it was $100, and that was right before Dragon's Maze -_-
I don't think that Tarmogoyf would be bad in standard, as long as he's not in the same set as Fetch Lands, because I don't think he'd be too powerful in standard really.
To stay on topic, I'm sure reprinting Fetch Lands from ONS would suck for current owners, but I would be beautiful for the rest of the players... It wouldn't even impact the decks too much other than price ranges... I want fetches bad, haha
December 24, 2013 9:21 p.m.
cestdesconneries - If you think Tarmogoyf
wouldn't be bad in standard, you don't understand power level. Fetches do make Tarmogoyf
more powerful, but they don't dictate his power. Remember that Grisly Salvage
and Commune with the Gods
are currently in Standard, both of which are Tarmogoyf
enabelers. Just ask Maro over at his blog if Tarmogoyf
would be too powerful for standard and see what he says.
I heard someone somewhere say that reprinting the Onslaught fetches would put Modern into a frenzy. I could see the Zendikar fetches being reprinted either in an RTZ block or in some other block. Although card speculation makes my brain hurt, so I won't worry about it too much. If Wizards prints it, they will be bought.
December 24, 2013 9:42 p.m.
Three-Left-Feet says... #16
I don't see how ONS lands would make things a frenzy... I mean, they'd be hunted down like crazy, sure, but at best they're just sorting mana a bit better than what's already available. Because of Shock Lands, a Misty Rainforest is basically still a Polluted Delta in a B/U deck. Sure, there's an advantage of not having to shock for immediate Swamp mana, but that's rarely a game changer.
As for Tarmogoyf , I don't think he'd be bad in standard, but I know he'd be powerful. He'd be used in a LOT of decks and would be a big powerhouse, but I don't feel it's be over-powered, still. There's plenty of creature-hate for me to not worry too much
December 24, 2013 9:56 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #17
ONS fetch reprints wouldn't revolutionize Modern. They'd make some land bases more consistent, but the ZEN fetches already did the brunt of the work. Going from a 5-fetch game to a 10-fetch game is not as big a deal as going from a 0-fetch game to a 5-fetch game.
Tarmogoyf wouldn't be as powerful in Standard as it is in Modern or Legacy. That's simple fact. Standard doesn't have the card quality to make Tarmogoyf grow as rapidly as it does in other formats. Sure, it would still be a staple. Sure, it would still be a fantastic beater. But it wouldn't be a 4/5 on turn two every game.
December 24, 2013 10:19 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #18
When we left Zen there were still a lot of unanswered questions plot wise. Combine that with the fact that wizards latest mission statement it to make Modern a more accessible format and I believe that a RTZ is definitely in the pipe.
As Epochalyptik said, they wouldn't reprint them while RTR is still in standard because that interaction.
I disagree though that reprinting the ONS fetches wouldn't make much of a frenzy because you are adding more cards to the card pool, this would drive the price of the ONS fetches up and, IMO, wouldn't dent the price of the Zen fetches.
(That is just my opinion, I'm not a pro, an I'm not a stock broker :P.)
December 24, 2013 11:44 p.m.
Blizzicane says... #19
Oh god yes those lands are the only thing holding me back from fully going into modern.
D:
December 26, 2013 11:54 p.m.
According to the worker at my shop they arent gonna reprint another modern masters they might do a vintage masters he said
December 27, 2013 12:30 a.m.
Ohthenoises says... #21
They ARE doing a vintage masters but it's mtgo only.
December 27, 2013 12:32 a.m.
Very unlikely that they will reprint fetches. But then again they reprinted shocks and I said the same thing when it was just a rumor. More likely we will see the pain lands rear its ugly head.
December 27, 2013 12:47 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #23
@mmdw34: You can't say they aren't going to print another Modern Masters set. We can only say they won't print one this coming year because they're working on the MTGO-only Vintage Masters release.
December 27, 2013 12:51 a.m.
WovenNebula says... #24
I agree that fetch lands will be reprinted eventually but when they do (thought I read somewhere that they won't do dual lands in core sets for awhile) It''ll be in a much slower block. As for Tarmogoyf I don't believe he will ever see a standard reprint, though if he were in standard again he would probably be a bulk rare as he was when future sight came out and I played and he was looked over and would of never thought he'd be where he is at today, again though they wouldn't reprint him because that would cause a major price fluctuation especially "not being as good in standard." I wish they would reprint Fetches but I will also like the power swing of creatures to go back to other spells in sorcery(s) and instant(s) giving Standard back it's combo creativity. (Though I am not asking for turn 1,2,3 kills but rather more spell interaction as it was, then mainly creature interaction as it is today in standard.) Just my personal opinions on these things and what I have experienced in the 19 years I have played mtg.
December 27, 2013 1:58 a.m.
Epochalyptik im not saying that, the shop owner said that he doesn't expect a reprint only the mtgo vintage masters to be the only masters they print
December 27, 2013 2:23 a.m.
Would Onslaught fetches matter in modern?
I'd rather see an accessible version of Damnation, though.
December 28, 2013 1:04 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #27
@TexasDice: Of course they'd matter. They just wouldn't revolutionize the format. As I mentioned earlier on in the discussion, going from a 5 fetch format to a 10 fetch format is not the same as going from a 0 fetch format to a 5 fetch format. The ZEN fetches are already doing the job. ZEN+ONS fetches will just do it better.
December 28, 2013 1:22 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #30
Legacy Masters would be hard to pull off because of the Reserved List.
December 28, 2013 2:09 p.m.
I believe Gideon was intent on saving Zendikar in which case a revisit wouldn't be out of the question. Not sure when, but I'd assume if that happens we'd likely see the ZEN fetches at that time. For now I think it's too early to reintroduce them. I'd say we'll be more likely to see the ONS fetches return first.
Won't be any complaints here though. :)
December 28, 2013 10:55 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #32
Well, the ZEN fetches aren't tied to the plane. They aren't like Seachrome Coast , which only exists on Mirrodin. All of the fetches have pretty generic names, and they can be moved around to any plane.
This is only tangentially related, but I'm wondering whether Zendikar is even still in one piece. Nissa left, presumably to find some way to fix her enormous failure in releasing the Eldrazi (if you read the lore, Nissa is basically the biggest bitch in the multiverse).
December 29, 2013 12:25 a.m.
Yeah, the only reason I think its possible ZEN fetches would be in Return to Zendikar is because they did the same thing with the shocks, which also have generic names.
December 29, 2013 4:06 a.m.
I would love this, would make it possible to get into some of the more interesting decks and make it accessible for someone like me who lacks the $$ to drop on fetch-lands.
December 29, 2013 6:18 a.m.
I'm not sure wizards will print fetches in standard again. They can be frustrating for new players. I could see a MMA 2.0 bringing back fetches, but after saving for so long to buy mine it sucks to think about them seeing a reprint.
December 29, 2013 8:27 a.m.
Three-Left-Feet says... #37
I think Fetches would be as frustrating to new players as Shocks were, but probably less so because of the life difference.
Including them in standard could also teach new players the difference between a Forest , and a land that taps for green mana. If they don't like the life loss or shuffling involved, I'm sure they'd LOVE a good Trade-In at their local shop, finding out they could get flavor cards (like Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker ) for a "stupid" land
December 29, 2013 11:34 a.m.
Tradeylouish says... #38
Here's an interesting thread on MTGS about someone who claims to have leaked information about Modern Masters 2 (which will apparently include fetchlands).
December 29, 2013 7:18 p.m.
Three-Left-Feet says... #39
@Tradeylouish Assuming that information is correct, I kind of don't feel like holding onto my boxes of MM1, and just want to look for a Goyf right now...
Of course, I'm going to keep in mind that this could be an elaborate lie and not make any rash decisions... I will be upset if fetches will not be in standard again, as i'm sure many others will be, but maybe they'll make it up to me by reprinting some all-time favorites of mine. ( Emrakul, the Aeons Torn , the Titans, Hero of Bladehold , blah blah blah )
December 29, 2013 7:29 p.m.
How do you all see a fetch reprint affecting the prices? I would expect them to drop, but how much? Also, keep Goyf in mind.... He went up $20.
December 29, 2013 7:46 p.m.
Hard to say. It's likely that (in the same way as goyf) they wont release enough to match the massive demand and price will increase.
December 29, 2013 7:51 p.m.
I guess it also depends on whether they are printed in standard or a MMA 2.0.
December 29, 2013 7:53 p.m.
Three-Left-Feet says... #43
Another reason why I say Standard Fetches are a MUST. I don't want any non-original (since it's basically 10 cards that do the same thing) lands being too outrageously expensive. Especially with Wizard's Motto on making Modern cheaper -_-
December 29, 2013 8 p.m.
I don't see fetches getting reprinted for at least another 5 years. Minimum...
I can see some things like Krosan Verge
though...
December 31, 2013 1:02 a.m.
@Epochalyptik when you say the Onslaught fetch lands would see a reprint in 3-5 blocks, do you mean 3-5 whole blocks or 3-5 block sets?
December 31, 2013 1:44 p.m.
lookoutimscary says... #46
If they are reprinted it won't be in a Core Set.
December 31, 2013 4:34 p.m.
Three-Left-Feet says... #48
There's a lot of chatter about ZEN fetches being in MM2, and SOME chatter ONS fetches being in standard to make them more easily accessible.
I'm still going to be incredibly upset in no fetches will be rotated back into standard, but I guess MM2 fetches would be half-way decent... They won't be turned into mythics, so the price shouldn't inflate, but I don't feel it'll make a huge different on decreasing prices... Which is part of WotC's goal, making modern a cheaper format...
December 31, 2013 5:58 p.m.
No, it won't make a huge difference at all. I agree that it depends on the the rarity at which they're printed and in which set but regardless the demand will be so high the price of new prints will still be massive. A lot of the fetchlands aren't THAT expensive anyway.
December 31, 2013 6 p.m.
blackmarker90 says... #50
If they reprint any fetches for standard I think it will be at or near the rate shocks were for the RTR block, enough to bring the prices down while in standard, but once it rotates out they will creep up to more manageable levels.
ChiefBell says... #2
Yeh, I would love those. Lands can be pretty pricy and I usually class them as too boring to spend a ton of money on, but they are essential. I haven't heard any rumours but I would certainly appreciate it if Wizards did reprints.
December 24, 2013 8:43 p.m.