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knownasnieves says... #1

@magic&willie - I am going to add the intangibles and gather the townsfolk into here it's def going to be a great add as also I'm going to keep the 2drop angel unless I see tmrw it's worthless or a problem etc. I have to move things around and I'll update tmrw before I leave thanks for the advice and the +1 it's appreciated .

August 17, 2012 1:27 a.m.

sheamagic says... #2

Sorry? I don't have much experience in a competitive environment, so those suggestions are completely based on casual. Also, Sigarda has hexproof, so she is a prime target for those equipment. What if they have no answers? Elbrus is almost an instant win, unless they have murder or O-ring, which they probably would already have used. I'm suggesting cards for his current build, not cards for W/G tokens. Regarding Elbrus, it would be the last thing they expect! ;) Willie is probably right, but again, I'm a casual player. card:Cathars' Crusade for the win!

August 17, 2012 1:37 a.m.

I know it seems strong but in competitive standard you will see alot of games end turn 5-6, so elbrus is past that point and even if it gets equipped they will do what I said. Also there are alot more answers than just murder and o-ring. I have nothing against casual players, I'm not bashing your deck, I just don't want you leading him into making his deck a casual deck in a competitive environment.

August 17, 2012 1:44 a.m.

knownasnieves says... #4

Don't forget to +1 my deck if you like it just as a reminder. Thanks for the advice it will be applied as I move my deck around tmrw thanks again everyone so far .

August 17, 2012 1:46 a.m.

I won't for now but if you make some good changes I promise to come back and +1 it :). Good Luck tomorrow!

August 17, 2012 1:49 a.m.

I know you said no Blade Splicer , but I've seen some fun shenanigans pulled off comboing it with Restoration Angel

August 17, 2012 2:49 a.m.

Dude its a tokens deck why ur u trying to make him go flicker?

August 17, 2012 3 a.m.

TheLordGod says... #8

I know it's not quite the same, but it's similar, see if there's anything useful you can take away from it: Angels and Humans. I've had quite a bit of success with it so far, tied for first at last week's FNM after making a few revisions to it.

August 17, 2012 3:50 a.m.

wideline1414 says... #9

The flicker allows the blade splicer to make multiple tokens. Comboing with Lambholt to make her stronger. I would also recommend the restoration angel idea

August 17, 2012 8:25 a.m.

DarthTrevyn says... #10

UGplayerWillie has some great points!

Other suggestions that I thought of while looking over your set up...

-1 Llanowar Elves -1 card:Avacyn's Pilgrim-1 Mikaeus, the Lunarch

+3 Hamlet Captain

-4 Lingering Souls (that will help remove Woodland Cemetery for Razorverge Thicket or some basic lands which ever floats your boat)

+4 Gather the Townsfolk (fateful hour 5 TOKENS!)

maybe this too...

-3 Nearheath Pilgrim

+3 Timberland Guide

I would sideboard Garruk, Primal Hunter he seems more of a distraction than anything, plus someone will probably Oblivion Ring him the moment he hits the field.

I would then add another Sigarda, Host of Herons to your main. With me, once she's out it's game over :D

Again just some last minute suggestions. We'll both be trying new decks at FNM tonight! Good luck sir!

August 17, 2012 12:23 p.m.

DarthTrevyn says... #11

oh and yes! -1 card:Cathars' Crusade I love this card but you'll have to ask yourself what's the better 5 drop?

Increasing Devotion

Garruk, Primal Hunter

Geist-Honored Monk

Sigarda, Host of Herons

August 17, 2012 12:30 p.m.

Dekester says... #12

Ever thought of Fungal Sprouting ? That and Lambholt are a deadly combo.

August 17, 2012 12:31 p.m.

knownasnieves says... #13

@willie-good luck and thanks and thanks for the advice ithas really made this deck better .Yes fungal sproutIng is a great card in this deck as well il see what I can do.Yes crusade needs to go I have better 5drops like silver heart that I actually have.

August 17, 2012 4:45 p.m.

knownasnieves says... #14

Well fungal sprouting is going to have to wait because I can't fit it and I'm already at 64 which is the highest I will go .. I also know that no one said odric but he's only four mana and it's a easy swing if he's on the field . I would really like to see Mikaeus work in here as well but I should just get the land that gives my creatures counters for power. I forgot the name I know lol. Wish me luck and I will update later on today and thanks for the advice it has helped a lot. Also I was just thinking to go all out humans instead of beating around the bush but lets see what happens and how I do .

August 17, 2012 5:13 p.m.

abdulbaqr says... #15

I'd try to get just a little bit more splashed black mana in there if you can. maybe 2x Isolated Chapel so you can be sure to get those Lingering Souls flashbacks.

August 17, 2012 5:34 p.m.

knownasnieves says... #16

Ok I can get my hands on 3x crusader of odric , 4x champion of parish, 4x fiend hunter, 4x mayor of avabruck, 3x hamlet captain . What are some opinions on these card and how will they fit?

August 17, 2012 11:43 p.m.

knownasnieves says... #17

I can also get my hands on some birds of paradise as well 3x so that will help out alot . I really should add 3x hamlet captain and 3x mayor of avabruck but I need to figure how they would fit cuz the only thing I could see coming out is abundant growth .

August 18, 2012 4:22 a.m.

caboose2900 says... #18

Ok, I am liking where this deck is going and I will jump on the comment wagon. First off, Hamlet Captain needs to be Avabruck... period. Anything that kills Avabruck will kill Hamlet anyways (unless you attack with the Avabruck, in that case you are stupid) and the Mayor has a chance of flipping to pump out tokens and help Lambholt. Another thing that I strongly recommend is at least 3 Wolfir Silverheart. Him on a Lambholt = instant crazy. Plus he is great on any flying creature, especially a late game Birds that has nothing to do. Also take out the Crusader of Ordic and put in a fourth Giest-honored monk too. Also, Captain of the Watch is DA BOMB!!!! Just saying...

I know I have given you a lot of higher cost suggestions and this might screw up your curve. My suggestion to help aid this is to first off add a forth birds for one pilgram... duh. And then if you have any further problems add rampant growth or farseek over Rancor. The Lambholt generates evasion and you make a crap ton of flying tokens anyways. If you do go with the Rampant Growths take out the Woodland Cemeteries and put in one Swamp and 2 Gavonies instead. The Rampant will search for the Swamp if you need it. Also make your forest count higher because you base all of your ramp in green and the green makes you white.

So here is what I would change in a list:-3 Hamlet Captain-2 Crusader of Ordic-1 Oridic-1 Increasing Devotion-1 Avacyn's Pilgram-4 Rancor-1 Revenge of the Hunted-3 Woodland Cemetery

+1 Geist-honored Monk+3 Mayor of Avabruck+4 Rampant Growth+1 Bird of Paradise+3 Wolfir Silverheart+1 Swamp+2 Gavony Township

And one last thing, Reinforcements of the Army in the side!!!!!!!!!

August 18, 2012 11:06 p.m.

caboose2900 says... #19

Actually now that I think about it, take out all the Revenges. Most of the time you want to go for making the Lambholt and the rest of your stuff unblockable or you have flyers to get around land things. Plus you need to thin the deck down some anyways. Anymore than 61 cards in a deck makes me cringe lol. Here is a link to a similar but different deck... :S Order and Chaos

August 18, 2012 11:21 p.m.

sbutler17 says... #20

think about putting in Wolfir Silverheart . great way to buff champion or any other creature. you also need some cards that give your champion hexproof or protection. like Faith's Sheild, bc even if u buff the champion it can be easily killed.

August 18, 2012 11:38 p.m.

knownasnieves says... #21

I only have 1x Wolfir silverheart and the crusader was in here so lambholt wasn't the only target for a 3mana drop . But I did make a couple changes to some of the suggestions. Also the reason i like revenge of the hunted was because when it drops it never puts a frown onmy face especially on second turn with a Winnie lol. So yes my cards are at 64 but so far that hasn't been the problem .. The problem are dissipates, mana leaks, and enchantment removal ..and some mana hitting the field. Also I need to drop my mana curve so for fnm competitive I need speed that combos fast enough to win or control the field with creatures until I win . Also just to say I know my title sais lambholt but I can never concentrate just on her since surgical extractions or similar cards can tear the deck apart. But keep the suggestions comin I can always trade for cards or buy from eBay. Thank you

August 19, 2012 12:38 a.m.

You may not think its a problem but a deck will always run more effeciently at exactly 60. Also you wouldnt have to go with it if u really don't want to, but would u like me to send you what I think the exact decklist should be? I think I have a very good idea of the optimal list and you would benefit from at least seeing it

August 19, 2012 1:58 a.m.

caboose2900 says... #23

Ok, glad I can be of some assistance. I personally think that running the Rancors and Revenges is too much of that kind of thing. I would drop one but that is just me. Work on getting more wolfirs because he is too good on any of your creatures. If you find your mana curve to be too high I would suggest dropping the Revenges or maybe Increasing Devotion and maybe the Ordic. The main reason I dislike the Revenges is because most of the time I start out with one in my opening hand and then it is kind of meh.

August 19, 2012 2:47 p.m.

knownasnieves says... #24

@willie -yes that would be great @ caboose-yes I can easily trade for them n maybe the revenges will go but not sure yet . Thanks though I have a lot to think about and aquire.

August 19, 2012 7:36 p.m.

3 Garruk Relentless2 Fungal Sprouting4 Intangible Virtue4 Geist-Honored Monk3 Champion of Lambholt4 Gather the Townsfolk4 Oblivion Ring4 Doomed Traveler3 Rancor2 Wolfir Silverheart3 Midnight Haunting2 Birds of Paradise4 Sunpetal Grove8 Forest10 Plains

I think it might need more 1 drops. Idk you can test it.

August 20, 2012 12:18 a.m.

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