Kagemaro, First to Suffer
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Rules Q&A

Kagemaro, First to Suffer

Legendary Creature — Demon Spirit

Kagemaro, First to Suffer's power and toughness are each equal to the number of cards in your hand.

, Sacrifice Kagemaro: All creatures get -X/-X until end of turn, where X is the number of cards in your hand.

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griffstick on Rare commander build?

2 years ago

That's cool. I've never seen that cmdr built around that befor. And I've never seen that card befor. I feel there are just so many better options that that card gets put aside and forgotten about.

I've built 4 decks that I would consider having a unique cmdr. I can only share the decks of 2 of them with you today.

The first deck was built around Kiku, Night's Flower. Bring her out and holding the 4 mana up over your opponents head was a sweet tactic that caused your opponents to change what spells they are gonna play. So that was fun. That deck I built a while back and I can't share that with you.

The second unique cmdr I built around is Kagemaro, First to Suffer, similar to Kiku, holding a board wipe over peoples heads is a lil bit of a struggle for your opponents to play around. Because this deck is built to abuse board wipes its pretty fun for me. Not anybody else though. They all hate it. Nobody likes getting board wiped over and over again. Oh it's also a Demon tribal. That deck can be found right here

The third deck is built around Multani, Maro-Sorcerer, the original concept of the deck was to have every creature in the deck to have power and toughness greater than its casting cost. Also to have as many ways or drawing cards from casting creatures. That deck has evolved alot. You can see it here

The fourth and last unique cmdr I built a deck around is Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker. I built this deck to have tons of protection against removal. So naturally it was life gain, enchantments, and angel's with recursion built in. And a win condition that was Avacyn, Angel of Hope + Worldslayer. I don't have that deck on tapped out either. I still have this deck though.

I hope you enjoyed that and I'd also like to hear about some more unique decks and cmdr's

griffstick on What strange old commanders do …

2 years ago

I like Kagemaro, First to Suffer because it creates this mini game within the game where you opponents see the board wipe in the command zone and when it's in play, it's just a simple to activate. Your opponents are checking how many cards are in your hand. Your opponents are trying to play around the board wipe or force you to use it when they want to. Definitely one of my favorite old weird ones for me. Maybe it's not weird enough so I've got another one. Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker is unique. I like that her ability kinda plays the same way as the above mentioned card but she is more defensive. She is also not really a build around cmdr but that's OK. I tend to build her as angle tribal with lots of protection and recursion and lifegain and indestructible things going on. She's fun because your opponents will not attack you until she is gone.

Huh funny that they are both from the same set. Ironic

asparling_tappedout on First to suffer: a deck for experimenting cards

3 years ago

I run Strands of Night in a bunch of decks. It's quite silly, I agree.

In my Kagemaro, First to Suffer deck I run the planeswalker version of Karn, the Great Creator as it can survive my commander's board wipes. It has the added benefit of shutting down all my opponents' mana rocks.

If you're really set on running Demon tribal you could lean all the way into it an run Liliana's Contract , but I think you'll need a whole reanimation suite to get that working.

asparling_tappedout on First to suffer: a deck for experimenting cards

3 years ago

Hmm. I have a Kagemaro, First to Suffer deck (currently private as I'm forever tweaking it), but it's fundamentally different from yours. Kagemaro is the only creature in the whole deck...

Kagemaro, First to Suffer is a board wipe on a stick. In an ideal game you'll be sending oodles of things to your opponents' graveyards. You might look to Rise of the Dark Realms rather than Exsanguinate as a finisher, seeing as you're likely going to be wiping your own board as well as your opponents'.

Best card printed lately for Kagemaro, First to Suffer is Peer into the Abyss , and it's still relatively cheap. I'd run Spellbook in addition to Thought Vessel and Reliquary Tower if you're going to go that route however.

If you want to go down the pricier side of things... Hatred is a great means of closing out a game in mono black. Board wipe with your commander then weaponize your life total to swing in for the win.

I only play mono black, but rarely do I play creature heavy decks... so take my advice with a grain of salt.

Named_Tawyny on Scarab god

3 years ago

The copy of Kagemaro, First to Suffer would be a 4/4.

Comprehensive rule 706.9d "706.9d. When applying a copy effect that doesn't copy a certain characteristic, retains an original value for a certain characteristic, or modifies the final value of a certain characteristic, any characteristic-defining ability (see rule 604.3) of the object being copied that defines that characteristic is not copied. If that characteristic is color, any color indicator (see rule 204) of that object is also not copied."

So because The Scarab God , is modifying the p/t of the object that the token would copy, it overwrites the Characteristic Defining Ability of that object, just as it would a more traditional p/t

Polaris on Scarab god

3 years ago

From what I know of layers, Kagemaro, First to Suffer 's characteristic-defining ability will apply, then The Scarab God 's power/toughness setting ability will apply, so it'll be a 4/4.

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