Abzan Rally Elves
Standard
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14 October —Oct. 14, 2015
Most of the cards for this deck will be in my possession by next week, then I should be able to sleeve up and play at an FNM.
telepathyoverdrive says... #2
Oh also, I think Sidisi, Undead Vizier would be a VERY good inclusion.
September 14, 2015 1:16 a.m.
Canopy Vista will be a good addition when BFZ comes out, along with the elves that will hopefully come with it.
Satyr Wayfinder was considered, but as he only pitches three cards and doesn't effectively ramp, I didn't let him stay.
The Languishes are reset buttons for if we fall behind on board against RDW or Abzan Aggro. It fills up our yard for a big Rally the Ancestors and, on curve, it comes right before a X=3/4 Rally which should win us a lot of games.
Sidisi is something to consider. Lets us tutor for Languish or Rally or Siege Rhino, even Shaman of the Pack.
I think the elves we want are gonna be at common. We are not gonna get the G elf mana dork that we want, but hopefully we get something to fill that slot.
September 14, 2015 9:34 a.m.
telepathyoverdrive says... #4
New mana dork looks fine, good mana fixing for white. But I guess elves rally is really gaining popularity, especially on mtgo. so much for being special snowflakes :(
September 17, 2015 3:11 p.m.
It looks very good, looking for someone to pre-order copies from. Hoping it gets a low grade.
Yeah, I'm actually watching a cfb video of it right now. Haha, yeah. I don't mind, I think it might bump up to T1.5 or so. Which is something that tribal decks don't do often in standard, so I'm excited.
September 17, 2015 7:23 p.m.
Dontknowgabe says... #8
I run Abzan Elves too! Some recommendations i would make is cutting your Abzan charm, Foul tongue, rally, rhino, and languish i get pretty far without them and dont consider them necessary for winning. 2 cards are a must that i think are amazing together. 2x Evolutionary Leap 4x Abzan Ascendancy these two together are a powerhouse for any deck alone! I also would recommend 3x Brutal Hordechief once played you will automatically see results when you swing. Main deck i run no kill spells but shaman and the hordechief seem to be enough at my Gaming Store. I do run Kill spells in the sideboard.
September 20, 2015 1:54 a.m.
I'd recommend looking at Gather the Pack as a way to get cards i the yard as well as a way to dig for your payoff cards like Rino. As it's a MAY ability you can still let all the creatures go in the yard for a big Rally.
Languish is not really needed in a deck like this. You can trade off your cratures by agressive attacks. After playing a lot with Elves in standard I'v been disapointed by the CoCo's. I'd rather be playing Gather the Pack and Sylvan Messenger for card advantage, with my spell suite being 4 Gather, 4 Rally, 3 Murdures Cut and 2 Sorin. It gives you a better beatdown plan with a random Rally win if you get the option.
On your manabase. I'd cut all the swamps for 1 Llanowar Wastes, 1 Mortuary Mire and 1 Caves of Koilos.
I'd also cut 2 Beastcaller Savant for 2 Nantuko Husk.
In the SB I'd look for more grindy options like Altar's Reap, Bone Splinters, Zulaport Cutthroat, Duress and Den Protector. The plan would be to take out the mana dorks and play a deck with all ETB effects and value when they die making the Rally plan super deadly with both Shaman of the Pack and Zulaport Cutthroat triggers. Maybee even finding room for Lantern Scout in the SB if there are super agressive decks in the format.
September 20, 2015 6 a.m.
Dontknowgabe I like the ability to come from behind and win that Rallying for 4 into a pile of elves and Rhinos gives me. I think that Abzan Ascendancy is an interesting card and I think that it works well with Evolutionary Leap, it helps swarm the board which is something I want to do as well.
Brutal Hordechief is a good card that gives a great effect with the option to kill their guys with deathtouching elves, but I think that Foul-Tongue Shriek gives that same advantage without being as vulnerable to removal. Languish is supposed to help me in aggro and midrange match-ups where I am either even or behind and then I rally the next turn to jump ahead with Rhinos and Shamans.
Jojja I was actually looking for that card, I was saying "where is the Mulch or Commune with Nature?" Everything I saw just put them on the bottom. I do think Languish may have been an oversight, I wanted it to come down when I was behind and could rally up something big or CoCo a fresh board.
What about 1 swamp, 1 Cave of Koilos, and 1 Mortuary Mire?
Nantuko Husk is an interesting option. I think I may main Altar's Reap for the card draw and grave fuel. Bone Splinters and Duress would be good in the sb.
I see having problems with RDW and bigger Abzan, any pointers for those match ups? I'm not worried about control, I just let them counter elves and draw spells until they are tapped out and then lay down Rally ftw.
September 20, 2015 11:44 a.m.
The changes seem solid. Agaist RDW I really like Sorin and Rino to stabilize.
Agaist bigger Abzan I save my 3 Cut's for Anafensa, and try to win with a big Rally+chord for additional Shaman, since Chord will rotate I'll be leaning more on Cut, Charm and Husks for trades.
September 22, 2015 5:54 a.m.
Jojja that sounds good, how about sideboarding Arashin Cleric against RDW.
Should I mainboard more removal? Should that removal be diverse? Or is 3 cuts optimal?
September 22, 2015 9:05 a.m.
telepathyoverdrive says... #13
Wow, this deck is really coming along. Awesome.
September 22, 2015 2:46 p.m.
telepathyoverdrive yeah, I'm getting pumped for BFZ standard. I found another neat interaction. I can attack with Nantuko Husk, if they let it go, I can respond by casting Rally bring all of my dorks in, ETBs happen and then I can eat them all to ensure the win. That's pretty insane. This deck is very flexible and interesting.
September 22, 2015 5:12 p.m.
The_Dark_Adonis says... #15
Dragonlord Dromoka should probably be 1 sideboard and I would try to avoid Sandsteppe Citadel, your an aggressive deck tap-lands are only a hindrance.
September 23, 2015 11:20 a.m.
I think Dragonlord Dromoka is a very good option in the sideboard, especially if UW Control gets a foothold in the meta. I'll see what needs to be done in the sideboard after a week or so of BFZ.
I think the triland is very good. If I can play it on T1 when I have no plays and it fixes my mana for the rest of the game, that's pretty damn good.
telepathyoverdrive says... #1
The mana actually looks very good, and i can't see it really hurting Canopy Vista.
Hmm, without Satyr Wayfinder getting elfs in the graveyard could be tough...Wait, that's what the Languishes are for? I like it.
Geez, I really like the look of this. Hopefully we can get some support in zendikar... it doesn't really look like it yet though.
September 14, 2015 1:10 a.m.