Panhamonicon Infinite Combo (R.I.P. the Dream)
Standard*
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Fuck the bans —April 27, 2017
All right that's it! I got salty when Reflector Mage got banned but fine, they gave me Felidar Guardian so i didn't complain too much. Now the're banning that one too. This is the second time a card was banned from my standard deck because it was too good in a dominant deck. I'm not trying to break the meta here, I just want weird jank and to have fun.
I do want to say that WOTC was it a bad spot though. People were gonna be pissed whether they banned it or didn't, can't please everyone all the time, totally get it. HOWEVER, this happened only a couple days after they said their would be no further standard bans. Over the last months they said their wasn't enough data to justify it but 3 days later they did a 180 and gave an emergency ban. What's the point of having set ban dates if you're not going to follow them. Many people saw felidar didn't get the ban which prompted them to buy the deck to immediately get blindsided.
Yeah I can just go back to Wispweaver Angels but that's not the point. With this many bans so fast ( and no emergency bans too) whats the point of going out and getting cards for a new deck. Judging by the past couple months one can only assume that bans might keep coming so what's the point.
I'm giving up on standard. I had fun while it lasted but just doesn't seem worth it anymore.
*End Rant
Firebones675 says... #2
McKz probably should run a fourth, been tweaking and playtesting the deck to try and lock in numbers i want. Had lots of games where i kept drawing the angels too early when i needed interaction so i dropped it to three but it wouldn't surprise me if i put it back to four eventually
October 22, 2016 12:40 p.m.
snowmaster55555atgmaildotcom says... #4
Here's my list: Kaladesh's Turbo Fog Primer
October 23, 2016 8 p.m.
Firebones675 says... #6
Brofessor_X, I thought about putting them in originally but they don't give as much value as i would like. If I were to do any single target flickers it would be Acrobatic Maneuver but i find just using displace is usually fine. From the play testing I've done so far i can mostly just counter whatever they are to cast or use a Displace if i really need to. Displace also is a lot better when i am comboing off with Torrential Gearhulk or Wispweaver Angel.
October 24, 2016 1:49 p.m.
I'd suggest cutting the Spell Shrivel for another Void Shatter.
November 24, 2016 1:03 p.m.
Firebones675 says... #8
NippDip When i combo out i can create infinite colorless mana from scions and draw my deck. At that point I have to pass the turn and hold up counterspells. Having some counters that don't require double blue like shrivel and unsubstantiate is relevant for that. If i have 3 blue up at the end of the chain on the opponents turn it allows me to hold up shrivel and shatter rather than just shatter.
November 24, 2016 1:44 p.m.
Firebones675 says... #9
NippDip When i combo out i can create infinite colorless mana from scions and draw my deck. At that point I have to pass the turn and hold up counterspells. Having some counters that don't require double blue like shrivel and unsubstantiate is relevant for that. If i have 3 blue up at the end of the chain on the opponents turn it allows me to hold up shrivel and shatter rather than just shatter.
November 24, 2016 1:44 p.m.
Firebones675 says... #11
NomadArtificer thought about it but dont want to deal with colorless sources. It was also in an old build of the deck but found there were times where 6 mana to flicker the first thing was needed but I didnt have it yet. (I know wispweaver is also 6 mana but i look past it because it goes infinite)
November 28, 2016 5:48 p.m.
NomadArtificer says... #12
@Firebones675, Eldrazi Skyspawner would give you all the colorless energy you'd need.
November 28, 2016 6:30 p.m.
Drowner of Hope and Eldrazi Displacer with a Panharmonicon out is also infinite....
January 4, 2017 12:20 p.m.
Firebones675 says... #14
nolio36, I am aware of that combo however as I said in the description I decided not to the displacer. When I was testing with it, I felt Displace worked just as well while being able to be targeted with gearhulk. This deck functions more of a control deck with the potential to go infinite rather than one that requires the combo. It's fun to go off, but i'd rather have enough dedicated slots to countermagic rather than the drowner/displacer.
January 4, 2017 2:35 p.m.
just so you know Reflector Mage is now banned in standard which will take effect 1/20/2017. Just a heads up.
January 9, 2017 3:04 p.m.
Firebones675 says... #16
amhood Yeah I am aware (unfortunately) As of this afternoon I hadn't yet pulled them out but I mentioned it in the description.
January 9, 2017 7:06 p.m.
Yup Yup. Just wanted make sure people were aware. I agree that reflector mage did not deserve this.
January 10, 2017 9:32 a.m.
seshiro_of_the_orochi says... #18
This is a pretty awesome lis, so you get +1 from me. I'd appreciate if you took a look at my flicker deck: Eternal Displaceness (finite combo flicker)
McKz says... #1
This looks nasty, but why only 3 whisper?
October 22, 2016 12:27 p.m.