Thraben Valiant

Creature — Human Soldier

Vigilance

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pauper	Legal
Pauper Duel Commander	Legal
Pauper EDH	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (3)

libraryjoy on Odric lunarch marshal deck

2 years ago

Possible includes: Herald of War, Thraben Doomsayer, Oblivion Ring, Might also look at some more instants and sorceries like a field wipe you can use when all your creatures are indestructible. You might also look at more card draw like Rogue's Gloves or even Arcane Encyclopedia.

Possible to remove: Thraben Valiant, Ikiral Outrider, Affa Protector, Attended Knight.

BlueScope on Does Kytheon flip when summoned …

7 years ago

@Neotrup: What you're mentioning isn't an exception, as (like you said) it cares about whether the creature is attacking, not whether it attacked (even though it's phrased differently):

An ability that triggers when something "attacks and isnt blocked" triggers in the declare blockers step after blockers are declared if (1) that creature is attacking and (2) no creatures are declared to block it. It will trigger even if that creature was put onto the battlefield attacking rather than having been declared as an attacker in the declare attackers step.

To explain the whole concept in (probably way too much) detail, consider a board state of Preeminent Captain, and 3 Glory Seekers, and that player has a Thraben Valiant in hand. They choose to attack with the Captain and two of the Glory Seekers. The Captain's trigger lets them put the Valiant from their hand on the battlefield tapped and attacking. One of the Glory Seekers is blocked in the declare blockers step by the opponent's only creature, a Runeclaw Bear. Now, in the declare blockers step, the board state is:

• there are 4 attacking creatures
• there are 3 creatures that attacked this turn (Thraben Valiant wasn't declared an attacker)
• there are 3 creatures that "attacked and weren't blocked" (one Glory Seeker was blocked)
• there are 5 creatures that weren't blocked (the Glory Seeker that didn't attacked couldn't be and wasn't blocked, and so wasn't Runeclaw Bear)

In the end of combat step, the board state is:

• there are 3 attacking creatures (one Glory Seeker was destroyed)
• there are 3 creatures that attacked this turn (this number doesn't retroactively change)

That last number is the one that Kytheon would see, though as correctly mentioned in the other answers, the ability won't trigger if Kytheon wasn't declared an attacker itself.

michaelmtg92 on

7 years ago

Hey Randomdeath and buildingadeck I made some changes, luckily I had most of the cards you guys suggested in stock I removed Thraben Valiant, Show of Valor, Sanctified Charge, Rush of Battle, Moorland Inquisitor, Moment of Heroism, Mighty Leap, Lightwalker,Gideon's Reproach and Dromoka Dunecaster should I just turn this into a pure pump with anti-boardwipe?