House Rules Ban List
Commander (EDH) forum
Posted on April 26, 2014, 12:54 a.m. by rache
How strictly does your play group adhere to the "officially recommended" ban list?
KindredDiscovery says... #3
It all depends on how much banned cards would be played in your group. If you're not flickering Sylvan Primordial every turn, it's a pretty fair card.
April 26, 2014 1:44 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #5
It's not "officially recommended," it's just official.
My group is competitive, so the official ban list is the only ban list.
April 26, 2014 2:42 a.m.
@Epochalyptik The Commander ban list is actually just a suggestion, it's not official since it is not controlled by wizards of the coast.
April 26, 2014 2:53 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #7
That means nothing; the format is run by the RC, and the RC's ban list is the official ban list. It is not a suggestion.
I suppose you could say it's suggested in the sense that you can override it with a house rule, but that doesn't make it any less official.
April 26, 2014 3 a.m.
@Epochalyptik My apologies, I should have said that it is not mandated as other banlist are by Wizards. Official was definitely the wrong word there lol.
April 26, 2014 3:08 a.m.
rache--It is a recommendation for casual playgroups that know what they need. But groups like Epochalyptik's will play ultra-competitive with the banned list. But you are true in the sense that it is a recommendation unlike the lists mandated by Wizards.
April 26, 2014 8:49 a.m.
Seraphicate says... #11
my playgroup completely ignores everything on the ban list and just play with it
i wont argue, most of us just play modern gimmick decks
April 26, 2014 8:50 a.m.
ThisIsBullshit says... #12
Our group disregards a lot of the bans-but not all of them play commander. We usually just go by what doesn't make the game fun anymore. We had a guy who'd use Tinker and go get a Blightsteel Colossus but we had enough after one game where he wrecked everyone except the guy running Pack Rats and told him to take out the Blightsteels (which happened to be proxies).
May 5, 2014 9:47 p.m.
my group pretty much only uses the official ban list. there's been talk of errata-ing cards like Serra Ascendant and rebanning Staff of Domination , but i just run so much spot removal in my decks to be able to deal with situations like that and we play often enough that someone knows if they pull something they will not only get table hate for that game, but the next 3 as well. EDH is a game of diplomacy and i think the main use for the ban list is so random people can know that there isn't going to be anything as ludicrous as those cards used against them.
May 6, 2014 12:47 a.m.
canterlotguardian says... #14
Atsuma in that case, they might as well just errata Felidar Sovereign because it's practically an insta-win in EDH. Also why would they re-ban Staff of Domination . It's not that powerful of a card, except with maybe untap effects like Voltaic Key and even then, it requires other cards to be broken, which is exactly Wizards' stance on why Deadeye Navigator hasn't been banned yet.
May 6, 2014 5:47 p.m.
how does Staff of Domination benefit from Voltaic Key ? it's the untap for 1 effect is what makes staff so broken. If it required massive artifact mana in addition to untap effects it wouldn't be as bad. as it is all it takes is colorless mana, which is stupidly easy to gain huge amounts of. As for Felidar Sovereign i meant it as a general errata of all cards that trigger at X life, not just Serra Ascendant , that is simply the worst abuser.
May 6, 2014 6:49 p.m.
canterlotguardian says... #16
Yeah I didn't see the (1) untap ability until after I'd posted. My bad. :P
May 6, 2014 8:05 p.m.
NotSoLuckyLydia says... #17
We tend to not stick very closely to any ban list in multiplayer, because most of us play duel commander/french. Meaning green and mono blue have The Flying Spaghetti Monster, you can (but usually don't) play Sylvan Primordial , and Primeval Titan for infinite mana is a fine thing to do.
And then there's one asshole playing a multiplayer (Read: MANA ROCKS) version of Kiki-Jiki.
May 6, 2014 8:13 p.m.
At my local store we have a rule of don't use banned cards. Being a dick is more of an acceptable guarantee, and we generally joke about it when we pull dick moves. Like dropping a Balefire Dragon and Sewers of Estark on a guy who just ultimated Ajani, Caller of the Pride for 80 2/2 Cat tokens. (he did it with Doubling Season in play for him)
May 6, 2014 8:45 p.m.
that's fine because EDH is all about the ridiculous play after ridiculous play. cards like Sylvan Primordial are just so easily abused into being a lockout mechanic that is either dealt with then and there or everyone gets locked out of the game. that's why most of the cards are on the ban list, they either make games drag on too long such as Shahrazad or are outright overbearing such as Griselbrand . I still think they should ban mass land destruction for that reason but it has uses and counters, and hits you as well so i can see the arguments against it.
May 6, 2014 11:06 p.m.
My LGS maintains it's own banlist based on the RC's banlist. Every few months we get together and vote things on or off. Locally, the unbanned cards are Black Lotus ,Primeval Titan and Emrakul, the Aeons Torn , banned is Deadeye Navigator . I'm fighting hard to get Karakas off the banlist!.... (no luck, no one wants to see that happen besides me and one other guy, who happen to own them :P).
Arvail says... #2
My group doesn't exactly have specific bans. We generally go by the rule "don't be a dick". It's pretty effective.
April 26, 2014 1:02 a.m.