I'll re-submit my Sygg, River Cutthroat deck:The Progress Engine

So I've finally decided to contribute to the list with my Dralnu, Lich Lord deck: Flash from the Past , Sadly I do not own the deck. But then again, few people on here actually do own the deck they contribute.

So I've finally decided to contribute to the list with my Dralnu, Lich Lord deck: Flashback from the Past, Sadly I do not own the deck. But then again, few people on here actually do own the deck they contribute.

(Ugh, a triple post) Ignore the first post, it doesn't lead to my deck. The second one however, that leads where I wanted.

_person_ I like the sygg deck, it is good. It would require sygg to be moved from tier 4 to tier 3 though to be added. I did not remember his abilities, but they do seem tier 3 worthy with extra card draws if he hits, especially with a pod playing. I would like him moved up and that be the decklist, but we will have to see what others think. NarejED.

viperfang4: Thanks for the support!

ajacobik could we have a link?

I believe he is talking about this Erebos list.

Competitive or otherwise, I have respect for people who play Imp's Mischief.

So... today for Lulz I played ANT Sidisi but replaced Sidisi with Kokusho. I made it as a joke but my playgroup stopped laughing after I won G1 T3, G2 T2. Coincidence to be sure but I've been working on a list and I think Kokusho should be moved to T2.5 or even T2

Kokusho, all the life

Commander / EDH Dunadain

11 VIEWS

It looks as though venser shaper savant needs a bump in his tier ranking. This list looks pretty dope

CEDH Paradox storm Venser

Commander / EDH* noah2715

SCORE: 1 | 287 VIEWS | IN 1 FOLDER

I seriously think that Breya, Etherium Shaper and Atraxa, Praetors' Voice are actually Tier 1 decks.

Atraxa is pretty bad to be honest. She contributes nothing to the types of decks in her color scheme that are actually competitive. She is worse than Derevi as a stax general despite having better colors (unless some new tech has been discovered I am unaware of) and she is badly outclased by Thrasios for anything combo related.

Breya is very good but Thrasios is pretty much strictly better. She is a very strong tier 1.5, but falls short due to her combos being relatively fragile and her lack of green, which is stronger than red/white. I stopped tinkering with her a while ago perhaps mmcgeach can offer some insight on her.

I agree that Breya and atraxa are well placed right now, I like the Venser, Shaper Savant list, possibly tier 2.5 but first I feel that the mana curve needs to be lowered (I realize cards like Dig Through Time are not really 8 mana spells but the deck still has a bit of fat.)

Anyways, I would like to resubmit me Kokusho list, I've made some huge changes, cutting out some low impact artifacts and some of the curve toppers and replaced them with cheap artifact creatures and Ashnod's Altar. The results are fantastic! My mana curve plummeted from 1.77 to 1.59, and the extra creatures combined with Culling the Weak, Organ Harvest, Songs of the Damned, and Ashnod's Altar to name a few, produce insane amounts of mana, all the while, as artifact creatures, they also work with Krark-Clan Ironworks and lower my dependency on black mana.
Much less exciting but still important, I chopped some colorless lands for swamps, mulling a perfectly good hand because you don't have black sucks, I need a high swamp count for Lake of the Dead anyways, that card is bonkers and not being able to play it because you don't have swamps is a big blow sometimes.

Without further ado:

Kokusho, all the life

Commander / EDH Dunadain

SCORE: 1 | 80 VIEWS

How do you submit your deck for review in order to get the considered for feature in the tier listing?

say you want to submit a deck and what the commander is. then attach a link in a comment on here.

Speaking of submitting a deck: Flashback from the Past is my submission for a Dralnu, Lich Lord competative commander deck.

@Trtl: Thank you very much for the instructions.

I would like to submit my Sigarda, Host of Herons list for the potential to be featured in the tier 3 listing - A Prison Fit for an Enchantress.

Breya is fine where she is. Maybe at some point she will move up to tier 1, but it seems unlikely.

I actually think Atraxa should move down to tier 2.5. When you compare her to other stax decks in tier 2, it's never favorable, not even against Meren and Nath, who could also arguably move down. Everything Atraxa wants to do, Derevi just does better. Even if you're not running her as a stax deck and you just want the blue boonweaver deck or a Hermit Druid deck, Thrasios+Tymna or even Thrasios+Ravos do that much better. If you take the stax route, Atraxa is a lot more comparable to Bruna - she can get there if she gets going, but she needs a lot of support and you have to clog up your deck with a lot of cards that have no utility outside of just trying to slowly win through commander damage. If you take any other route, she gets easily outclassed, so there's no point in putting her so high. We don't have Doomsday Oloro as a tier 2 deck just because Zur Doomsday is tier 1, the same should apply to all color identity+decklist combinations.

The Venser deck is pretty good and probably a solid tier 2. It's a lot better than Baral and the other mono-blue decks and it's also a bit better than the other combo decks in tier 2.5. The big failing of Venser compared to Jace is that Venser offers no utility in the midgame since you need to save it for your combo. However, Venser can combo off through a Trinisphere (or any sphere effects if you can produce enough mana), relies less on High Tide, and doesn't fold to Cursed Totem or Grafdigger's Cage (though it is weak to Torpor Orb). I definitely think Venser could move up to tier 2.5 and eventually to tier 2 when an optimized list is found.

Gates88 I agree with most of what you said, but do you really think optimized Venser is better than Baral and Jace? You could be right but I would have said on par or slightly worse, would love for you or someone else with more mono-U experience than me to compare them, blue is probably the color I have the least experience in.

Whoa whoa whoa, I DID NOT say that Venser is better than Jace. When I said that Venser was "better than Baral and the other mono-blue decks" I meant the other mono-blue decks that were lower than tier 2. As good as Venser is, Jace is still slightly better overall.

point taken, thanks

Ok its been 2 weeks since I posted pheldda with no comment towards if its worth looking into for t3. (granted promotions to t3 are less observed but still)

Commander: Phelddagriff

Rhabdophobia

Commander / EDH* chaosumbreon87

28 VIEWS

now to work on hazezon, progenitus, or rasputin. (surrak link is broken)

i have no idea why you talk about tier of Atraxa Stax decks, if atraxa is a elite Superfriends Commander .. not stax... ofc Derevi is better for stax ..

Superfriends is not a viable strategy in competitive EDH.

Before anyone decides to be a smartass, Teferi is not "mono-blue superfriends". It runs like 3 planeswalkers in the 99 and you don't even need Jace (or Ugin arguably).

chaosumbreon87 WHy are you running Pheldagriph? you say in the description something about infinite mana and staff of Domination? Pheldagriph is not an outlet for infinite mana and, to the best of my knowledge, does not create any infinite mana combos, I'm confused