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Possessed Portal Discussion
1 month ago
forneyt My budget for this deck is higher then I would usually spend because I want it to be able to play in cEDH games (it doesnt have to be a win all the time deck but good enough to sit at the table). However cards over $80-100 each are probably a get if I can thing but a hard sell to spend $ to the wife. As my play group goes, I dont have one. Covid destroyed it. We are just now starting to open back up here in Vegas so I have no idea what I will be walking into at my LGS.
I would love Mana Crypt but I just don't have one and I only have Mana Vault in there for a early commander ramp. The Charcoal Diamond bugs me because of the comes into play tapped and that seems to slow for cEDH.
Possessed Portal is a win con if it resolves. By the time I get that out they should have almost no resources in had if not already hellbent. With my commander out as well they cant even top deck and everything they sac goes to me. The 8 cmc can be rampped as well I can even shave it down to 6 and protect it with Dream Devourer . Vilis, Broker of Blood I just do not personally like. The cmc means I would need to animate him out and I rather do that on more important targets. The card draw I could get from running Necropotence at a much cheaper cmc (still up in the air about that one though). He seems like a large amount of resources to just get returned to hand or countered just like Sheoldred, Whispering One and I rreally like her.
I do like Waste Not probably find a place for it.
So you might have something there. I didnt want to run Chromatic Lantern because of the cmc. Everflowing Chalice I like because it starts at 2 and at any point of the game if I draw it I could put more into it if i had the mana to spare. The Blood Moon situation is problematic so I might just do that, maybe in place of Mana Vault if i decide to drop it all together.
Yes the maybe board is stuff I am considering as well as stuff I have pulled out. I like Gary and still may run him after I get my first 100 settled and tested I will move it around.
Geth's Grimoire may be a possibility. However I dont like the idea of giving the other players more answers. I want the hellbent and top decking much sooner then later.
Living Death is a card I may cut, I am not sure yet. I like the idea of all their boards getting sacked and becoming my creatures and I also get my graveyard back. Death Cloud is a win con. Mindslicer is the same kind of thing (with a sac outlet) I get all their permanents. Without a sac outlet I can beat away or hold as blocks. That is why I like this commander so much, "your stuff is my stuff.. Thanks!"
Dark Depths only works with Thespian's Stage . Vesuva enters as a copy so would have the counters on him. Thespian is already in play when copied so no counters. Either way this seems too meme for me :-)
I did notice a big flaw that you pointed out .. I have no sac outlet so Miren, the Moaning Well High Market Phyrexian Tower any of those might be a good add. I like Deserted Temple but it is close to that to expensive area because I dont have one.
Thank you for taking the time to give some help and advice, I appreciate it.
1 month ago
I'm not sure what your playgroup consists of, or what your budget is, so I'll just rattle off some cards and (if needed) their budget alternatives, as well as what I would suggest replacing.
Chromatic Lantern in place of Everflowing Chalice : Lantern fixes your lands that tap for colorless (or cabal coffers before you get it going), and keeps you from getting wrecked by Blood Moon by giving your "Mountains" the ability to tap for black.
I already see some other great cards in your maybeboard: Dark Confidant , Gray Merchant of Asphodel , Thoughtseize , and Necropotence among them. Confidant is "draw" without the "draw", which can be an important distinction for certain cards (cough cough Chains of Mephistopheles cough cough Nekusar, the Mindrazer cough cough). Gary is an alternate wincon and also replenishes your health after you drain yourself with your own cards. Thoughtseize basically is "I want this card in your hand" with your commander, and Necropotence is just a broken card that gives you more cards than you can cast.
I feel like your deck may be missing some draw power, so I would suggest Geth's Grimoire , the previously mentioned Vilis, and Howling Mine / Mikokoro, Center of the Sea . With all the discard potential, these last two shouldn't be a problem if your opponents get a couple cards!
For any combo of the above suggestions, I would consider cutting Living Death , Death Cloud , Tangle Wire , and Mindslicer . My reasoning for these four specifically is that they are too mana costly and also negatively affect your boardstate in a way that doesn't put you ahead.
Lastly, I have some land suggestions that I am unsure what to cut for because you already have a decent selection. High Market is a great land, along with its alternate, Miren, the Moaning Well . Deserted Temple can be an extra Cabal Coffers or Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx . If you like to take risks, you could include Dark Depths for the classic Vesuva / Thespian's Stage combo!
2 months ago
Nice list! Really cool combos etc. 2 ideas if you’re interested in locking down the table (as long as your group doesn’t mind). Uba Mask is a great way to keep everyone hellbent, Possessed Portal as well but its a load of mana. Also, Contamination + Bitterblossom can be a game breaker. How has this deck worked out for you so far?
2 months ago
1x Tangle Wire
1x Bolt Bend Is this ever reduced for your commander?
1x Taurean Mauler It's okay but sort of unnecessary. Can have an artifact dwarf instead.
1x Torbran, Thane of Red Fell Useless in your deck, replace with a 1 mana dwarf.
1x By Force
1x Wheel of Misfortune Really unreliable, especially if all 4 players still playing.
1x Akroma's Memorial You shouldn't win by combat.
1x Illusionist's Bracers One use of commander should be more than enough to win.
1x Dwarven Thaumaturgist His effect is irrelevent.
1x Mycosynth Lattice Mana fixing for opponents, how generous.
1x Rings of Brighthearth see Illusionist's Bracers above
1x Clock of Omens Primary wincon, and at instant speed.
1x Dwarven Grunt 1 mana dwarves
1x Dwarven Scorcher 1 mana dwarves
1x Dwarven Trader 1 mana dwarves
1x Enslaved Dwarf 1 mana dwarves
1x Liberated Dwarf 1 mana dwarves
1x Proteus Machine Artifact dwarf, slotted for consistency. Unnecessary really, can be replaced with whatever.
1x Feldon of the Third Path Can create an artifact dwarf or maybe pull out a dragon that was discarded/played if game went too long.
1x Possessed Portal Use if winning and clock of omens has been dealt with or you don't have an artifact dwarf.
1x Daretti, Scrap Savant Good for rummaging or returning an artifact, since you always have a treasure in play. Can be replaced with good card draw.
1x Mystic Forge 1/4 of deck is artifacts. Can also fix dead draws to a certain extent. Can be replaced with good card draw.
1x Herald's Horn Call dwarves every time. Can be replaced with good card draw.
1x Final Fortune Can win out of nowhere. Use only if you are certain you can win. Be careful, highly recommended only if opponents appear tapped out.
Other worthy mentions I don't feel like figuring out how to slot in right now:
Outpost Siege Solid red card draw.
Commune with Lava Playable red card advantage.
Maze of Ith Use this as a spell slot, not a land slot. Can untap your own dwarves, or be used defensively.
Scrying Sheets all your lands are snow for whatever reason, so could be okay if you have nothing else to cast in a turn.
Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle with all these mountains, why not?
Command Beacon In case people kill your 1 toughness commander too many times.
Darksteel Citadel More artifacts. ONLY PUT IF you don't have color problems.
Flamekin Village Not sure if haste is important enough, but something to consider.
Inventors' Fair gives you health, but more importantly can tutor an artifact.
Madblind Mountain If you end up with a lot of top deck shenanigans.
Labyrinth of Skophos If you're being attacked.
Kher Keep Chump blockers.
Shinka, the Bloodsoaked Keep Might help seem more intimidating early game?
Sequestered Stash Can return an artifact to your DECK, and then commander can grab it.
Sea Gate Wreckage If you run out of cards and have colorless mana sources.
Quicksand Can dissuade attackers
Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx Big mana
Myriad Landscape Ramp
Mouth of Ronom If you still have too many snow lands.
3 months ago
My Windgrace deck has a snow-land sub theme for cards like Sunstone and Glacial Crevasses . Doing this in your deck would require swapping some of the random lands with snow basics, but I’ve never run into a problem with not having the needed color. The crevasse especially being good to protect Windgrace.
I’d probably swap out Wildfire for Jokulhaups . Same cmc, does a lot more though. Maybe throw in Obliterate and Death Cloud . All cards that keep Windgrace alive and well, while neutering everyone else. Epicenter and Impending Disaster are also good wipes in this deck.
Bonus points for running Possessed Portal . If the opponents don’t have a solution in hand, the game is over with that on the board.
Also a bit surprised you aren’t running Constant Mists in a deck that recurs and spits out lands so easily.
4 months ago
Typically you don't want to add too many combos into something, BUT, if you are working Tergrid, God of Fright Flip into this deck it should solely be because of Nath's ability and the other discard outlets you have. You can farm It That Betrays pretty fast if you're going elves as well. Presence of Gond would be something to add into the elf side of the deck as well and just put the enchantment onto one of your tokens. Lathril, Blade of the Elves for the elf kind of deck would be good as well since elves is your main theme with Discard being the sub-theme. I noticed you did A LOT of changes to this deck taking ideas from the stax side of Nath. While this is a GREAT idea, you dont want to be doing too much. You should have a small package of stax pieces Torpor Orb Chains of Mephistopheles Nether Void Bottomless Pit Necrogen Mists and maybe one or two others including Possessed Portal . I notice you added in Earthcraft squirrels nest; as much as I LOVE this combo, I don't think it works for your deck. The reason being is that you want to swing wide. STAX needs a wincon outside of Torment of Hailfire and taxing our opponents to death. This is why I suggested Lathril instead of the stax set up.
I hope this can help out! -Shadowz
4 months ago
ShaDoWz_6677, Possessed Portal does seem to be a strong card, even though 8 mana seems high I guess we are slowing the game down enough and have enough ramp/mana rocks to get there quickly. I actually own not one, but TWO Chains of Mephistopheles ...was one of the first cards I added to the brew. Court of Ambition is also in this deck.
I love your decklist and primer, and will take a few of your combo ideas to add to this one. I also need to up my mana base a little...probably cutting a few of the dead weight elves.
4 months ago
TeaTimeWizard be mindful, that's a stax deck. But you can get some GREAT discard pieces out of it. Possessed Portal is one that a lot of people skip on when you think Nath. it's a house in the deck. Then you have the $1500 Chains of Mephistopheles which is the best card in Nath. But I truly believe you can play Nath without using Chains.
Theres a lot that you can do to toy around with discard and making people have to effectively deal with your deck.
Court of Ambition is pretty good for this as well.